The Flipside: How to Invert Your Perspective and Turn Fear Into Your Superpower w/ Michelle “MACE” Curran

Next Steps Forward host Dr. Chris Meek welcomes Michelle “MACE” Curran, former U.S. Air Force combat pilot, elite Thunderbirds Lead Solo, bestselling author, and trailblazing motivational speaker, to the program to discuss courage, confidence, and breaking through fear to live a life of purpose and possibility. Michelle’s journey from a small-town girl in Wisconsin to one of the most respected fighter pilots in the world is nothing short of remarkable. During her 13-year career in the U.S. Air Force, she flew F-16s in combat missions across the globe and made history as only the second woman ever to serve as Lead Solo for the Air Force Thunderbirds, a role that demands precision, resilience, and fearless leadership.

After stepping away from military service, Michelle founded Upside Down Dreams, a platform dedicated to empowering individuals and teams to overcome self-doubt, embrace bold action, and unlock their full potential. As a keynote speaker and author of the bestselling book The Flipside: How to Invert Your Perspective and Turn Fear Into Your Superpower, she takes lessons from the cockpit and applies them to everyday challenges, showing us how to reframe fear, conquer imposter syndrome, and build high-performing mindsets in both personal and professional life. 

During the interview, Michelle will share:

• What it really takes to push past fear and self-imposed limits

• How her experience as a fighter pilot shaped her views on leadership, teamwork, and resilience
  Why starting before you’re ready is one of the most powerful moves you can make

• Practical strategies for turning uncertainty and doubt into confidence and action

Whether you’re facing a major life transition, career challenge, or simply looking to elevate your mindset, this conversation with Michelle “MACE” Curran will leave you feeling empowered, motivated, and ready to take your next steps forward.

About Michelle “MACE” Curran: Michelle “MACE” Curran is a former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot and lead solo for the Thunderbirds. In early 2022, Michelle left active duty military service to found Upside Down Dreams, a company which empowers people to overcome obstacles and the fear of failure. She travels the country speaking to organizations on lessons of grit, perseverance, determination, and teamwork. Through keynotes, courses and workshops, she empowers individuals to shift how they view fear, overcome self-doubt, and build trust in high performing teams. Over the last few years, she’s shared her story from over a hundred stages and taken it to the page. Her debut non-fiction book, The Flipside, became a USA Today Top 20 Bestseller and has been featured on CBS Mornings, The Next Big Idea, and in Fast Company. She has also written two children’s books Upside Down Dreams and What’s Your Callsign?, both picture books for children with big dreams looking for a real-world heroine. She loves inspiring others, both young and old, to chase their dreams and achieve their true potential.