The Unicorn Queen…Believe in Magic w/ Peggy Willms

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There are few things that make people successful.

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Taking a step forward to change their lives is one successful trait, but it takes some

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time to get there.

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How do you move forward to greet the success that awaits you?

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Welcome to Next Steps Forward with host Chris Meek.

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Each week, Chris brings on another guest who has successfully taken the next steps forward.

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Now here is Chris Meek.

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Hello, I'm Chris Meek, and you're tuned to this week's episode of Next Steps Forward.

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As always, it's a pleasure to have you with us.

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Our focus is on personal empowerment, a commitment to wellbeing, and the motivation to achieve

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more than ever thought possible.

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We have another amazing guest this week.

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Peggy Wilms has been a certified fitness trainer, sports performance nutritionist, and personal

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and executive health wellness and life coach for over 35 years.

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She's also an entrepreneur, multi-bestselling author, featured contributor for the international

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online magazine Biz Catalyst 360, host of wellness retreats, and host of the Coach Peggy

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Show.

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She spent over 20 years in corporate wellness and has managed multimillion dollar medical

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clinics.

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Her unique business and worksite wellness programs have earned her multiple awards.

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She has two sons and two grandsons.

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She loves all things beach and sunshine and lives in Florida with her better half.

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Welcome, Peggy Wilms.

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Welcome to Next Steps Forward.

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I'm exhausted.

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You read my notes.

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You should be exhausted.

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We were talking before the show starts, six books in two years.

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I know.

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I deserve a nap.

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Just wait for another hour, if that's okay.

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Okay, I will.

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Yeah, I deserve it.

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52 minutes.

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That's all I'm asking.

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All right.

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I got it.

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So I'm exhausted.

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I think I'm worn out just describing everything that you do.

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You keep a very busy schedule and you have so much energy.

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In the interest of our audience's personal empowerment and well-being, what regimen does

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a fitness trainer and sports performance nutritionist follow to stay in top shape and take us through

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every day of the week?

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Every day of the week.

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Okay.

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Well, first and foremost, it takes a lot of years to figure out what works in all seriousness.

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And for me, I have a history of migraines.

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So for me, the thing was kind of working backwards is quality sleep and then to make sure my

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nutrition's on point and to have ... I've got my routine.

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I'm left-brained for sure.

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So I've got my routine.

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But I do allow that flexibility.

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I teach The Power of When by Michael Bruce, Dr. Michael Bruce.

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And The Power of When is based off your chronotype and your biorhythms.

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So I know what time of day to do my best things.

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So two plus two is not good at 2 p.m.

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So I wax and wane with the times for my exercise.

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I start on my ... I have one of those wave boards for vibrational therapy to get rid

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of lymph node stuff.

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So I start my day every day with that.

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And I've been writing a ton.

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I try to get out in the sun, vitamin D, get on my bike, get in my kayak, stay in touch

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with family and friends.

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I mean, but I allow some flexibility each day.

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In terms of writing, your head's down, you're on the keyboard, or you've got a pen and paper.

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How much time do you spend writing?

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How much time do you get up?

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Do you wear a ... like my Apple Watch, it tells me to stand up, you've been sitting

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for too long.

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How do you keep that going?

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I absolutely do not preach what I teach.

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Just to be clear.

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Absolutely not.

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I go through phases of loving mania, right?

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So I'm addicted to my dopamine cup.

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So when my reward system is being rewarded, I will forget to eat, honestly.

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I'll forget to move.

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I'll forget to do all the things that we all need to do.

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When it comes to writing, I will do the ... creativity might come at eight o'clock at night, it might

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come at five o'clock in the morning.

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And I'm one of those that you use different methods.

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I may use my handwriting, I may actually draw, I may use my phone, I've got a whiteboard

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over here.

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So my books, Chris, the last four out of six have been very heavy, heavy content where

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it's contributing authors where those very emotional, sometimes I cry, sometimes I laugh.

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So I've had to have a conversation with myself to make sure I kind of pace when I write and

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when I edit, because I edit them as well.

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So it's, yeah.

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It's a lot.

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It's a lot.

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And we're going to get into those books later on the show, and you've got a new one coming

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out, so I'm excited to talk about that.

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I mentioned in the intro that you live in Florida and love all things beach and sunshine.

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Have you always lived in Florida and how important are sunshine and the beach to your well-being?

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It's funny because I have pictures in my family photo album since I was six months old of

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me sitting by the beach in old Orchard Beach, Maine.

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So I grew up in New Hampshire and then I ended up at Fort Ord, California, working in the

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military.

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My spouse was in the military.

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And then I ended up in Germany for four years, which in 89 when the wall came down is where

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I got my first certification in Frankfurt, Germany.

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Then I raised my family for 30 years in Colorado.

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And Peggy isn't a person that likes that landlocked feel.

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It literally causes me anxiety when I fly into mile high.

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I'm like, ah.

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So I just am a water girl.

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I've got to get my feet in the sand and kind of ground myself, kind of spiritually, kind

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of just get myself into nature.

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So I've been here since 2016.

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So I didn't realize you're from New England and I'm almost afraid to ask this because

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I'm not sure if I want the answer.

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My listeners and viewers know I'm a huge, huge sports fan.

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In particular, I love my beloved New York Yankees.

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You're from New England.

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What's your baseball team?

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I'm sorry.

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I'm so sorry.

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We even had inappropriate t-shirts my 88-year-old grandmother wore that said something about

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the Yankees that wasn't positive.

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Go Red Sox.

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And I'm sorry, listeners.

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We're out of time.

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So thanks for joining us, Peggy.

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You're still a nice person, Peggy.

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I'm glad you're here.

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I'm going to drink out of my unicorn mug because of that.

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That's funny.

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Exactly.

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Well, so you're from New England.

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You're landlocked.

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I live in Connecticut.

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We've got Quasi Beach because we've got Long Island Sound as the big hurricane stopper

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for us.

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What do you recommend for people that don't have the advantages of year-round sunshine

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on the beach?

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I love that.

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So seasonal affect disorder is something I've dealt with my whole entire life.

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So it was nice to be able to have the sunshine, get filled up and do well.

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What are we going to do when there is no sun and you've got four or five months of that?

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I think a lot of that is why I wanted out of New England, to be honest.

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Those seasons are really long.

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But I think that you can build that up in different ways.

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So some people, honestly, they love the mountains.

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And I don't get that.

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Or they love the river.

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I think you have to find what you love that is nature-built or that is physical fitness.

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And if it doesn't work, get a sad lamp.

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I had a seasonal affect disorder lamp for a really long time.

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And I think nutrition pulls in a big part of energy, that balance between physical and

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nutrition pulls that in for your mindset.

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And I meant to ask you a moment ago about being from New England.

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Do you have neck pain?

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Well, I had two car accidents, Chris.

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They weren't my fault.

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So yes, I...

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I thought you might have neck pain just from looking up the Yankees all the time.

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Oh my God, stop it.

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I don't...

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Now, I know that was borderline a dad joke.

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I don't get dad jokes.

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So just so you know, if you expect me to laugh, so I know when to laugh because I'm bad at

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that.

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We'll prep you next time.

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I'll put something in the chat.

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All right.

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So let's get back to business here.

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Good.

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That sounds good.

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I mentioned that you're a multi-best-selling author and you have a new book that was just

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released last month in June.

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You have another book that'll be coming out soon.

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Before I talk about them, I think we should start with the foundational book that you

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and Dr. Marcus Wettstein released in August of 2022.

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The title is The Fourfold Formula for All Things Wellness, True Stories of the Heart,

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Spirit, Mind, and Body is the book in which you introduced your wellness wheel.

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As you described it, the wellness wheel has 24 spokes, which is why staying healthy, wealthy,

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happy, and wise isn't easy.

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Share with us the concept of the wellness wheel and its components.

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Absolutely.

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First of all, it took a long time to develop.

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So I've been working with clients, obviously, and patients for decades.

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And as I moved out here and started to coach virtually, which was before even COVID, but

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I knew I wanted to live out here, be able to work from wherever and be diverse.

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And I started to really realize that, I mean, being healthy is not about just eating kale

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and doing squats.

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That's what I've always said.

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So once I really started to realize how much the mindset was a part of that and the stress,

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coping skills, mission, vision, values of life, purpose, I realized that as I started

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breaking it out, I needed to because the clients, it was so overwhelming to even say nutrition.

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There's a difference between diet and nutrition.

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The diet's the plan.

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The nutrition is the content.

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So as I...

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And then lifestyle.

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Well, lifestyle is when you go to the bar on Friday night and have chicken and wings.

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How's your lifestyle?

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So after I broke it out into 24 pieces, I went back to Marcus, who I've known since

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2009.

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I met him.

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I was managing his office, his endocrinology clinics.

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So he moved from Connecticut to Colorado.

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He's German.

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He moved from Connecticut.

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He had his private practice.

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And for years, we talked about writing a compilation book about patients and client success stories.

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So that's how the fourfold formula started.

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We knew we wanted to write a trilogy, but we decided to expand it beyond clients and

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just cutting patients.

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So it then went out into who's got a story and we plugged it into the trilogy.

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So you went into thinking you were going to write three books.

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We actually didn't.

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I developed the wheel in 2018.

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It took five years to get copyrighted and registered.

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So once I developed the wheel, then we realized we were going to base the books off the wheel.

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And that's how the four chapters of heart, spirit, mind, and body even came about was

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based on the wellness wheel.

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Got it.

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In the fourfold formula for all things wellness, 40 authors share their personal and true stories

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to empower and motivate your readers and leave them filled with hope.

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How'd you choose those authors and those particular stories and why were they special to you?

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We opened it up and we were so concerned, Chris, that we would even get enough because

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I wanted to do 30.

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I figured that I could handle that.

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You don't want a book that's much more than 80,000 words.

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You got to pick it up.

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It's very chicken soup of the soul type book.

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You can pick it.

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You can read it on a vacation, the doctor's office.

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So we wanted about 2,000 words per author and we thought, are we really going to get

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30?

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Are we going to have to publicize this?

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And it was word of mouth.

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This one knew Sally.

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Sally knew John.

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John knew somebody he worked with.

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It was like that.

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All of the books were filled.

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I didn't even do any screening.

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There was maybe two or three stories that were kind of inappropriate and that was it.

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And we took the 35 or 40 we've had for each book.

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Some of them were repeats.

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So I do have some authors who wrote in all three, which was really cool, but we did no

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big advertising for any of the books.

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And what do you consider inappropriate stories?

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I'm just interested.

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Some are those that might put somebody at risk for something that was outside of the

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realm of what I want.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So mental health, it's to that extent that it would be counseling, something that I didn't

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want to risk my licenses for.

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So yeah, as you know that.

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And something too raw, sometimes really, really raw, like family events and stuff that needed

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to be worked out.

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Thank you.

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In 2003, you and Dr. Wettstein released, Win the Wellness War, We Are Responsible for

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All Things Wellness.

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You built on that theme that happiness and good health don't just happen, but that it

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quote, takes awareness, education, strategy, consistency, emotional resiliency, and more.

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In fact, you note that it sounds like planning for a battle or a war.

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Take us from the first book to the next level in Wellness War of planning for a battle or

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a war.

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Yes.

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So the first book, the fourfold formula is based off of cooking.

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Like I'm a metaphor queen.

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Because I think people can tangibly understand metaphors.

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So we took that through like the recipe of cooking a cupcake, how you need all the ingredients

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in life in order to have that outcome, that product.

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So when we went into the Win the Wellness War, it was really about prepping for a war.

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Have you done the PT?

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Is your battle dress ready?

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What are you going to do for support system?

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Where's the goal?

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How are you going to get there?

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So we took that through using metaphorically, what are you going to do to get ready for

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battle and win the war of health and wellness?

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So that's how we took that into the second book.

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So it was the same thing.

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We set it up by chapters.

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It was very, there was a continuity through that and into the third book.

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Well, I love as we go to the third book, how you, the consistency and the titles of your

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books in terms of having the acronym.

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And as you said, the metaphor.

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And so I love that.

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And I'm a big, big fan of not just the value of resiliency, but the absolute need for it.

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So would you give some extra attention to the value of and need for emotional resiliency?

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Yes.

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And I wish we'd start teaching it in kindergarten, to be honest.

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I think it's really, really important.

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We teach love languages, we teach learning styles, and we talk about emotional resiliency

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would change relationships, would change work environments.

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I teach the roller coaster of life, the RCL, and to expect that when the roller coaster

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goes up and you're enjoying and you're having a good time, it will come down and there will

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be loop de lose.

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There will be events of divorce, which can be an amazing opposite of getting married

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and getting a puppy and the death of a puppy.

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So the more resilient we are and we understand those coping skills that work for us or don't

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because they're different for everybody.

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If exercise works for me, taking a nap for you might work.

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So to me, that resiliency is all about figuring out that recipe to get you through those events

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that are absolutely going to happen.

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Unfortunately, they're going to happen to most of us.

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For those of us who had kids who went through COVID and two and a half years of homeschooling,

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the need for emotional resiliency you talk about, you just mentioned how it should be

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taught in schools.

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I've talked for a long time about we're now seeing that tsunami effect in the mental health

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space globally.

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And I think that generation of kids will be hit the hardest.

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My wife and I have three.

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We had one who was a, she actually graduated from high school during COVID, won her first

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year of high school, was all home.

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And then our youngest was seven turning eight.

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And she took a picture, I remember, in April of COVID 2020 and we were in our dining room

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and he's on my iPad with earbuds on and I'm on my laptop with earbuds on, like that was

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the new normal.

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Everyone knows that kids are resilient, but what are your thoughts, and I know it's just

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your personal thoughts, on what the aftershock, if you will, could be for this generation

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of kids, call it, now in sort of sixth grade to early mid-college?

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Well, at first, I had a client, the best example I can give is I was coaching a family and

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I had an 18-year-old boy and I had a 21-year-old boy, same family.

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And I was never prepared for what I would be talking with them about social environment

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in the sense of even dating.

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So Matthew, it's an open subject, he's talked about this before, is he's 21 years old and

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he can't throw a football, he can't get rid of the testosterone, he can't fight and wrestle

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anybody, he's stuck at home virtually sitting there, and he can't date, he's trying to figure

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out to do an app, he's introverted.

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So those coping skills, I think by working with an expert, you're able to figure out

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other ways to do things.

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I mean, I was helping him with his bio on social media to help him to be able to have

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relationships.

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As far as coming out of COVID, I think that we need to spend some quick, down and dirty

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time on trying to figure out how to almost acclimate back into society and how to not

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expect that external gratification, that immediate turn on Zoom, it's there, everybody's there,

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what are we going to do?

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Where's the support system?

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So I don't know if that helps kind of where you were headed, but what do you think?

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No, I agree with you and it's just, you've got to do the quick, down and dirty, like

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you said, let these kids know like, it's okay to feel this or to think this because

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that wasn't normal.

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It's a hundred year thing.

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God willing, it's no more than a hundred years or at least a hundred years.

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And so it's just, now it's just a chapter in life, ironically enough, and we're four

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years out on the other side, but it was a long four years.

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You know what I think, another part of that, Chris, that was so unfortunate is the fact

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that yes, we got thrown into virtual world and grandparents, we were all FaceTiming.

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It was amazing.

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But then over here you have this whole flat lateral of now there's this fear of my health

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and my grandparents passing away and just so simultaneously, you're not only needing

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to deal with how to learn from home and new platforms, but then this heaviness of that

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emotional resiliency, how are we going to cope with that death and health in your face?

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We still haven't really talked about that.

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No.

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No.

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It's kind of like, okay, it's over.

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Let's just move on and sweep under the rug.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Let's move on to your latest book.

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The one released just last month in June titled Wellness GPS, Get Prepared for Success with

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All Things Wellness.

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As I mentioned, it's the latest book that you've coauthored with Dr. Marcus Wettstein.

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Please give us some insight in that book.

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That we took it again, the same exact way we went metaphorically into GPS.

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So getting prepared for success.

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And I had that imagery of we're going to get in our car and I think I'm going to come to

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Chris's house.

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And then all of a sudden there's a detour, there's a car accident there.

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I can't go as fast.

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I got sick.

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I got to slow down.

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Did I pack my snacks?

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And so when we look at a goal in life and we think we're headed a certain direction,

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how are we going to become emotionally resilient enough and have the tools to be able to shape

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shift and pivot and still get there or be willing that if the goal looks differently

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to still accept that that's okay, that we were headed that way.

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So we still took the same concept, 30 to 40 authors use my wellness wheel.

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And then metaphorically that was a GPS getting prepared for success.

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Now on to your upcoming book, which we've mentioned earlier in the show, again, another

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book.

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This book is titled Unsheltered.

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How did you choose the title?

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And based on the title, I guess it's going to be a little bit different than your previous

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books.

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Am I right or wrong on that?

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You are absolutely right.

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So 15 months ago, I was with my coauthor, who's Dennis Patoko, and we were doing an

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event in Tampa.

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And it was the first time I'd really been exposed to the unhoused, the unsheltered in

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that environment, because I live in little tiny Fishingtown and I was so overwhelmed.

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And he's worked so many years with the unsheltered and nonprofits.

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And I had this feeling that if I'm going to write with another coauthor, I want to do

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it with Dennis Patoko.

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I've known him, I've blogged for him.

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And I literally say in my preface in the book that if it wasn't him to be the Batman to

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my Robin, I wasn't going to do it because I knew the subject was going to be heavy.

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So the reason we chose, excuse me, the reason that we chose unsheltered versus homeless

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is it's a little bit more, it's an easier word to embrace because not everybody is unsheltered.

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I mean, is homeless.

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They could be unsheltered, they could be on a couch, they could be in a car.

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And this is a compilation book of 40 authors who have been homeless, are homeless, unsheltered,

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or know somebody they're one degree removed or a nonprofit that has gone through their

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experience in relation to this topic.

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We wanted to change the narrative of what people think unsheltered really is.

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It's not the 55 year old man with dirty fingernails who is an addict.

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It's a lot more than that.

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And when will unsheltered be published?

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And then while we're at it, how can we find it and your other books?

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Yes, unsheltered will be published in two weeks on July 30th.

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It's going to be launched and all of my books, my children's book, my workbooks, all of those

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are available on Amazon.

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Just make sure my last name is Wilms, not Williams, and you will find them.

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And what's your website?

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My website is allthingswellness.com.

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So let's stick with unsheltered for a few more minutes before the break.

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That was a huge pivot for you.

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And as you mentioned that when you were in Tampa, it seemed to be the first time that

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you were exposed to, we'll use the word unsheltered, the people out there.

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What made you want to focus on that, given sort of your life coaching past and history

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versus something that's a very serious topic?

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I mean, it's a crisis here in our country and certainly based on some of these stories

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had to be very emotional for you.

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Well, one thing that I learned with the first three compilation books is I was good at compilation

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books.

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I was very good at spearheading and gathering stories and editing them and being able to

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work with the authors because I've worked with 400 authors in two years.

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And so when you look at 400 people and the dynamics of meeting them, I knew I could keep

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myself grounded.

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I had to work on it, but I had to keep myself lots of energy, lots of strength, lots of

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compassion, hugging, holding, respecting.

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And I knew that for some reason I was meant to vessel that project.

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I was meant to just house that on my back and be able to vessel all those stories that

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frankly I think need to be, we had to go to the streets.

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We literally had to go to the streets to get these stories.

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I was extremely disappointed that the nonprofits didn't step up like Peggy thought they would.

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Very disappointed.

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So we actually had one out of 67 step up and write a story for the book.

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And why do you think that is?

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I would think that they'd want to get their word out there, their name.

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Trust me.

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We were willing to put their name in the book, their mission in the book.

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We were willing to put their contact information, what they were all about, the leaders of it.

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And I thought that's where we would go for our stories.

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I thought it would be the safest environment.

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I was going to go sit there or they were going to sit there and talk to Jim who came in for

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his breakfast and we were going to do this just beautifully.

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That didn't happen.

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They didn't give us the environment.

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And I think, and in my book I talk about it, unfortunately I feel they don't want us in

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their back office.

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I'll leave it at that.

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They don't want us in the books.

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I don't think they want us.

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I don't think the tension brought to it.

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Yep.

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They want us out of their books.

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So now that you've pivoted away from your life coaching books, you've got this one coming

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out.

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What's next?

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Do you want to take a break?

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Your brain hurts.

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You probably have writer's cramp, writer's block, anything on the horizon?

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I've got a pretty big TikTok following.

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And so I go live on TikTok every day where I work with coaching tips and I just build

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this audience to help them reach their goals.

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And it's just, it's been amazing.

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And I'm going to focus on that and the marketing of what I've already done.

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I'm not good at patting myself on the back and looking at how far I've come.

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I just level up, level up and kind of just keep paving the way.

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So I haven't done a good job to be honest.

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I need to find somebody that'll help me market and do what they're good at.

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I've learned that.

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Peggy doesn't have to be good at everything.

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She needs to hire the experts to do it.

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And I'm going to continue writing the children's books with my son because we have a series

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of five and we've only done one.

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So I'm going to kind of play with that over the next six months.

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Well, that's a perfect segue.

483
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I was just going to go into that book, which I was unaware of until you shared with me

484
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the other day.

485
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So please tell us the title, what it's about and how long it actually took you to write

486
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and publish it.

487
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Well, and I'm holding in my hand and I'm just showing you, Chris, so that you know.

488
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:44,340
So this book, actually, The Boy with a Broken Nose, I wrote and illustrated in 2001, literally.

489
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And unfortunately, what we decided to do is the books were originally based off my seven-year-old

490
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son who had a really hard time telling the truth.

491
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And I wanted to figure out why.

492
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Was I not creating a safe environment?

493
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Was he unable to be, why was he not able to be accountable?

494
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So once Tanner now is 30 and a dad of his own two sons, we have spun it and looking

495
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,840
back at it as two adults, the mom and the 30-year-old, who's now a dad, why didn't he

496
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,200
tell me the truth why he fell out of the tree?

497
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,920
You know, why did he bring in the pocket pals and his jeans that then died in the dryer?

498
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Because he could have told me he wanted roly polies in the house.

499
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,440
So we're just taking, we've got a lot of parent prompts in there in hopes it will spark conversation

500
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between whoever's reading, the grandparent or the parent to the child who's listening.

501
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We've been talking to Peggy Wilms and we'll be right back after a short break.

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Now back to this week's show.

541
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And we are back.

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I'm Chris Meek, host of Next Steps Forward.

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My guest today is Peggy Wilms.

544
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Peggy has been a certified fitness trainer, sports performance nutritionist, and personal

545
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,560
and executive health, wellness, and life coach for over 35 years.

546
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,520
She's also an entrepreneur, multi-best-selling author, featured contributor for the international

547
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,720
online magazine Biz Catalyst 360, host of wellness retreats, and host of The Coach Peggy

548
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,440
Show.

549
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080
And in spite of being a Boston Red Sox fan, she's still a good person.

550
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,080
That's one more bad dad joke for you there, Peggy.

551
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,320
Snab, snab.

552
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,200
So Peggy, as I just mentioned, you have your own podcast, The Coach Peggy Show.

553
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,720
Also known, I think, as Coach, Couch, and Coffee.

554
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Before we talk about the show, let's talk about the Coach Peggy part.

555
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,240
How'd you become Coach Peggy?

556
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,360
What was your motivation?

557
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,480
How'd the journey unfold?

558
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,160
And what keeps you going day in and day out?

559
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:32,520
Yes.

560
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,920
So it originally started, as I said, in 1989 when I was overseas in Germany.

561
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,720
And you just, you know, as a dependent wife, and I was a civilian working for the military,

562
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,480
it was kind of that extra thing.

563
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360
What do I want to do when I, and I've always been in health and fitness.

564
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,640
So that was when I got my first personal training certification.

565
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,200
So over 30 years, obviously, I can look back and look at the evolution and see what connected

566
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,080
that whole fabric.

567
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,360
I can see that now.

568
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:01,960
But it just rolled into exercise is now nutrition is then, you know, it was before Coach was

569
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,720
called a coach or a transformation coach or a mindset expert or anything.

570
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,920
It was way before then.

571
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,680
I was there so much.

572
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,560
So there was high impact aerobics to low impact aerobics to back, like, seriously.

573
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,520
Um, so the coach Peggy thing really came up when I was at the University of Colorado,

574
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,080
and I was working with the boot camps for the extreme weight loss show on ABC.

575
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,000
And we ended up using the terms coach, transformation, coaches, exercise coaches.

576
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,840
So that coach thing just came with me through this whole time.

577
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:39,000
And it's really, really about the transformation, the mindset, and then into the fitness, sleep,

578
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
stress, nutrition.

579
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,320
So I want to take a little tangent here.

580
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,840
You mentioned the first part of the show about when you were in Germany, you were there when

581
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,480
the wall fell.

582
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,520
Now, our generation was the last generation to go through that, that Cold War fear, if

583
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520
you will, of, you know, the US versus Russia.

584
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,720
And I was in college when the wall fell.

585
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,480
So I remember seeing all of that coverage.

586
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Tell us what that was like to actually be there.

587
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,240
I mean, that was a huge, monumental, historical event that people never thought would happen.

588
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840
And I hashtag may have or not have pieces of the wall.

589
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Okay, so when I was over there, it was really interesting because pre-wall coming down,

590
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,040
the US government, lots of support system, and I worked for the 130th station hospital.

591
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,600
So there was lots of prep in that world, in the medical world.

592
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,680
When the wall came down, I've written a story in one of my previous books.

593
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,720
I remember being in a gas station and a family came from East Germany over, and I met them

594
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360
at the gas station at the PX, and she was standing there.

595
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560
And the car was literally, there were clothes coming out of the windows.

596
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080
I mean, it was so packed.

597
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,040
And I remember talking to her and she could barely speak English.

598
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,200
But the fact was, is they shoved as much as they could in the car and raced as fast as

599
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,480
they could to the West.

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And it was palpable.

601
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,880
Everything was palpable and the dishevelment and just the run because we don't know if

602
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,320
we can run anymore.

603
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,520
So that was probably short of the natural disasters I've been through.

604
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,280
That was the most catastrophic hands-on space I've seen.

605
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Just an amazing thing to see.

606
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480
I just can't imagine what it was like.

607
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All right, now we'll get back on script.

608
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We just talked about the Coach Peggy, I'm sorry, the Coach Peggy part.

609
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Let's talk about the Coach Peggy show.

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What's the format?

611
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,360
How long have you been doing it?

612
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And how can we tune in?

613
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Absolutely.

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The Coach Couch and Coffee was actually my initial show.

615
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And so I was doing that.

616
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That was my initial beginning show.

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And then in 2018, I went through a rebranding and I worked with a rebranding coach weekly

618
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:37,960
for a year, cried every week, could not believe the teardown to build up, speaking of the wall.

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And I had to learn who I really was.

620
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040
I had to learn about my personal resume versus my professional.

621
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You and I both know we can speak personal or professional resume all day long.

622
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,560
1989, this is what I did.

623
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,560
But she really broke down and said, no, who are you?

624
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,240
Tell us stories.

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00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Who are you?

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00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
And I really learned in 2018 to tell the stories.

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00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,520
And that's when she said, you are your brand.

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These are the colors.

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00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Let's change it from beachy, Coach Couchy, that type of thing.

630
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,400
And she just said, no, go with who you are.

631
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
You've worked your butt off to get to the place that you are.

632
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Own it.

633
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,720
Sit up tall.

634
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Don't change your haircut.

635
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,680
She literally told me, don't change that mohawk for at least two years.

636
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,240
Are you OK?

637
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,320
So that shifted.

638
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,400
The platform is, honestly, it's very relaxed atmosphere.

639
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,640
All of the shows are on my website, allthingswellness.com.

640
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,560
I'm on YouTube, social media.

641
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,400
I've had many authors.

642
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,000
I've had you on the show.

643
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,160
So the format is very much, I kind of look at my wheel, to be honest, Chris.

644
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320
Is that what lane am I missing?

645
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,640
Oh, let's go down here with nutrition and have somebody on or an author over here.

646
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,080
So it's similar but different than yours.

647
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,840
To talk about things that you're interested in, right?

648
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,640
Yeah, I have a video I just put out on peeling back the onion and trying to figure out your

649
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080
purpose and passion and how you have to really just keep peeling and peeling to get to that

650
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,920
center that makes you cry.

651
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,360
Because to me, when your eyes open up, you see the whites of the eyes, someone leans

652
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,440
forward and they actually start to get teary eyed if I took something away.

653
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Then I'm like, hold pattern, hold pattern right there because that's you.

654
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,120
So if I don't do my show or my lives or my writing with that level of passion, I have

655
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160
to step back and go, who are you trying to be when you grow up?

656
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,120
You know, be yourself.

657
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,400
And so that authenticity and transparency is, that's literally one of my values is to

658
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,840
stand and lean into that.

659
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,960
So I'd be remiss if I let you get away without taking advantage of your expertise, both as

660
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,040
a trainer, as nutritionist, because nutrition and exercise, as we know, are both important

661
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,440
to our wellbeing and resiliency and also to empowering us.

662
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,000
I'd like to start with what wellness means to you.

663
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,160
How do you define wellness for the average person?

664
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Well, because I've worked with everybody from Iraqi soldiers to under eater, anorexics,

665
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000
body dysmorphia in high school, all the way to elders.

666
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,880
I really have a whole library, a plethora of examples where wellness is really mindset.

667
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,560
And, you know, you can eat well and then not eat well and you can exercise and then get

668
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,320
injuries and not be able to exercise.

669
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920
So how do you balance the, what can you do with my Iraqi soldier?

670
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Okay.

671
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,840
He was dismembered on the bottom and I would meet him out in the parking lot and he always

672
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,760
said to me, what can I do Peggy today versus what can't I do?

673
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480
John never showed up and said, what can't he do?

674
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,120
You and I do, because we don't want to, we don't.

675
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,280
So wellness to me is everything from being as stress-free as possible to good, healthy

676
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,040
relationships, not procrastinating too.

677
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,160
So it's just this whole encompassing of, I think the majority of us can get up in the

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,040
morning and say to them what wealth feels like.

679
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,880
Well, I love that concept that the soldier said, I had a guest on maybe a year ago and

680
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
she said, you know, we all think about what's the worst that can happen to me today.

681
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,680
And she spins it around and she gets up every day and she says, what's the best that can

682
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:54,920
happen?

683
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,360
I actually wrote that down.

684
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,000
I have a post-it note on my monitor right here because I'm like, that's such a great

685
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
mindset to start your day and end your day with.

686
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,520
What's the best that can happen today?

687
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,120
It's up to you.

688
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,680
It's so true.

689
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,960
I remember when I started going out in the parking lot to help him in and hold the door

690
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,920
and he said, why are you doing that?

691
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,280
You know, and you work with this population, so you get it.

692
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,800
And I'm like, well, I'm just greeting you out here.

693
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,080
He said, do you do it in anybody else?

694
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,720
And I said, no, John, I don't.

695
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:21,480
He goes, then I'll see you in the gym.

696
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Yep.

697
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,920
That's exactly the mindset.

698
00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:24,280
Right.

699
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,400
That's where it's at, right?

700
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Are there any misconceptions about wellness that you'd like to address?

701
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:34,840
I think that the point is, is that it's not all going to be well.

702
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,200
It's not going to all be perfect.

703
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,160
We chase and chase.

704
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,880
We try to level up.

705
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,560
We run up that mountain.

706
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,480
One of the examples I can give is the heaviest client I ever had was in his mid five hundreds.

707
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,080
And so as we were doing it, we took these troops, we took 20 of them up to the mountain

708
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,640
and the mountain in Colorado that we were looking at was to him, Everest.

709
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,600
I'm not going up there, Peggy.

710
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,360
And I said, oh yes, we are.

711
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,720
We're going to go very slowly.

712
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:01,320
It could take us five or six hours.

713
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,040
We've got the water.

714
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,680
We got the snacks.

715
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,800
We can sit, take breaks, sit, crawl, walk, run, whatever.

716
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,120
And so as we got going and he'd look back, you know, and he'd fall down and he'd scrape his knee.

717
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,960
And I said, do you want to go back to the bottom and start over?

718
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,040
He's like, well, no.

719
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,080
I said, then stand up.

720
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Let's keep going.

721
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,320
Let's keep going.

722
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,240
And it took hours and hours and hours.

723
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:26,680
So I think the expectation that full wellness is 124, 365 is the misconception in and of itself.

724
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,120
I might be well for this hour.

725
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,680
I'm with you, Chris, but I could be exhausted after not want to eat well and go take a nap

726
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,760
and not feel well.

727
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,920
But I've learned just like we talked about resiliency and education and hanging out with

728
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120
experts, I know what to try next.

729
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
And it's okay to fail, right?

730
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Big time.

731
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,000
I actually, I say something to my kids and not everybody likes it, but I always say,

732
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,880
hurry up to fail.

733
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Because to me, meaning the quicker that you get to that, the, the, of the, the obstacle,

734
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,120
then we can figure out how to get through it, you know, and what does fail mean to me,

735
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,280
to you, to, you know, it can be something catastrophic, like, you know, losing a job.

736
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,840
But for me, I'm like, next, what's, what's going on.

737
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,160
But we've got to honor that that's not always easy for everybody, every event.

738
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,160
What advice would you have for someone who's just beginning their wellness journey?

739
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,160
The very first thing I would say is find an accountability team, which sounds backwards.

740
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,640
You know, usually it's like set the goal, find, call the coach, call the nutritionist,

741
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480
but you need to have at least two people.

742
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,720
I always say, you know, I have an eating disorder.

743
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,960
I've been, I've been doing well for 35, 40 years, but I'm an under eater.

744
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,120
And I get busy and I don't get hungry.

745
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,480
And still to this day, I have my troops around me that say, you know,

746
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,440
you haven't taken a break.

747
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,960
You look like you're getting a migraine.

748
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,200
Are you, and I have to have that, those people.

749
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,840
Now, I am not always happy when they call me out.

750
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,720
I'm not.

751
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,640
But I think the very biggest thing you could do to get started is someone who's going to

752
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,320
push you, somebody who's going to hug you, and somebody who's going to get mad, you know,

753
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,120
that you've got to have like that, that whole troop.

754
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,320
So I would say accountability to hold you, you know, to keep your, keep you on your feet.

755
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,360
There's so much information out there these days.

756
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,800
And a lot of it's often contradictory about nutrition, exercise, and wellness.

757
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,720
You've been in the profession for many years and know so much about those topics,

758
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:16,840
but you're also so busy.

759
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,360
How do you stay up to date with the latest research and developments in wellness?

760
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,360
Yeah, Chris, we're not 20.

761
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,400
So I'm just going to say I'm not 20, but I have seen over the years since the 1950s,

762
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,840
honestly, the best example I can give is worksite wellness.

763
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,760
But people think that's kind of brand new.

764
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:36,360
It's hundreds of years.

765
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,440
It's hundreds of years they've been trying to do worksite wellness.

766
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,280
But I go back to the basics.

767
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,360
And that's why I love like the Mediterranean diet.

768
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,000
If we talk about nutrition for a hot second, I love walking and eating the Mediterranean diet

769
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,840
in the sense of making sure that everybody's nutrition needs are met.

770
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,760
But you want to have some sort of nutrition plan that's colorful,

771
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,320
that has a little bit of everything.

772
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,880
And I've been through the keto with my clients and the intermittent fasting

773
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,160
and the zone diet.

774
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
And I've seen them come and go where eggs cause cancer.

775
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,200
And now they're lovely.

776
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
So I think it's the get back to basics.

777
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,080
Figure out if you've got enough macro and micro nutrients for your goals.

778
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Your goals are different than mine.

779
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,480
But yeah, I literally try to figure out what works for the client.

780
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000
Because sometimes if people don't like dairy, they're not going to eat Greek yogurt.

781
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,520
They're not.

782
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,040
And so if I find another way to spin that around so they get their

783
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,520
nutrients, then we're going to have to spin it with what works for them.

784
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,440
They're not going to buy Greek yogurt for two weeks if they're not going to eat it.

785
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,320
So getting back to basics, Chris.

786
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Well, I guess as a follow-up to that, you're talking about a lot of different diets in

787
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,560
and out of in trending, not trending it back to your high-impact aerobics,

788
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,000
low-impact aerobics, then back again.

789
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,960
How can we tell what new information is valuable?

790
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,400
And what is the latest fad or trend?

791
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,480
I know.

792
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200
Well, do we really want to get into what the government's hand is?

793
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,000
I don't think so.

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,600
It's our next hour.

795
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
That's our next hour.

796
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Do we really want to get sick so that we can get healthier to not get healthy?

797
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,360
I will be honest.

798
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,360
I don't spend a lot of time in white papers.

799
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,080
I don't spend a lot of time in looking at controlled environments.

800
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:23,080
I did do a Diabetes Center of Excellence study in 2012 and 2013.

801
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:29,320
And that was based off doing the pre, the glucose travels, like what's your insulin pre,

802
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,520
during, and post to be able to get them prepared in that sense.

803
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,200
But as far as what's working and not working, I just go off of my history and figuring out

804
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,520
what works best for the client.

805
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,400
You know, blood work plays, it plays a role to have a relationship with the physician,

806
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,360
how willing the client is to have their chiropractor involved, their physical, you know,

807
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:50,840
trainers.

808
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,440
I've talked to their trainers before.

809
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,960
I've talked to their physicians before.

810
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,240
So I think, again, like I talked about support system and accountability.

811
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:58,040
It takes a team.

812
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,760
It's a village.

813
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,840
This is literally a village for each person to be as, it's like raising children.

814
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,160
You mentioned that with your kids during COVID.

815
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Each child is completely different.

816
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,960
One child is not even going to learn the same way.

817
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,680
One's not audio and the other, you know, could be visual.

818
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,560
So that's why it took so much work because I believed in working in depths instead of

819
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,040
laterally.

820
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040
I'm not a subcutaneous coach.

821
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,920
I'm a visceral.

822
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,040
I go deep.

823
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,160
I want to find out what works and I want to change generations, not three or four lives

824
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,800
and move on.

825
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240
And maybe as a follow-up to that, are there any new trends and wellness that you find

826
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,400
particularly promising, beneficial or helpful?

827
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,720
Oh, I am not the person to ask for the vibration board.

828
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:44,520
I've got my vibration board, which has been around, I think, since the sixties too.

829
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,920
I don't eat meat.

830
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,800
Here's an example.

831
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,440
I don't eat meat.

832
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,120
I haven't since 2017.

833
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Why?

834
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,760
I have a history of bodybuilding, misfitness.

835
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,280
I used to eat chicken all day long.

836
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:54,920
Why Peggy?

837
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,960
Why are you doing that?

838
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,640
If you'd have told me in 2017, my inflammation markers would be so drastically high from

839
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,520
my accidents and my allergies and that you're going to eventually pull off those foods that

840
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,240
cause inflammation for you, Peggy, I would have never told you that I would change my

841
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,360
nutrition ever.

842
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,040
So I think that using science in the sense of blood work and physical tests and those

843
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,640
things to decide what works.

844
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,240
Again, I'm an all individual person.

845
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Some of those studies, Chris, you know, have 17 people in them.

846
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:27,800
17.

847
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,600
Pretty small sample pool.

848
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:32,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

849
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,000
So you mentioned science.

850
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,320
Are you a believer in technology, any devices or apps to help with nutrition, exercise,

851
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,040
sleep and wellness?

852
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,880
I am.

853
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,760
I'm an app girl.

854
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,600
I live off my iWatch.

855
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
I think it's really important for those that are competitive.

856
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,040
I think that when you look at, I have a son, my son I'm writing my book with is going to

857
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:58,600
have his leg amputated soon and from an accident and then probably eventually the second one.

858
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,760
Long story short, when you look at, and you're in this field, I know as well, when you're

859
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,160
looking at prosthetics and the technology there that can get you back out, get you active,

860
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,480
get you want to eat, work on your mental health, your depression, obviously all of those.

861
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,720
But any of the apps that I came from the day of step counters that you wore on your hip,

862
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:20,600
you know, we have 2000 steps here going up the stairs instead of, you know, and they've

863
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,120
evolved and I think we need to evolve.

864
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,760
But I think again, it's just like nutrition and exercise apps.

865
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Certain apps work for people.

866
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960
The phone that says get up every 55 minutes works for some.

867
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,840
I use a timer as funny as it is a timer on my desk to remind me when to eat.

868
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,600
So that's back to a tool that worked for me in the early 2000s.

869
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,920
And I think, again, it's how it evolves.

870
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,280
We have to shape and shape.

871
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:42,760
I don't know.

872
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Apple is on their what 14th version of their phone.

873
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,920
So, and I still use it.

874
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,600
So I think it's, you know, figuring out what works for each individual person.

875
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,520
You know, I think every sub, you know, you subject you've asked me because it is so

876
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,480
individualized.

877
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:04,280
I'm such a proponent of individuals and not all for nothing, you know, all for everyone.

878
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,280
And that's why I love these books is they taught me these compilation books taught me

879
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,400
that you can take one subject homelessness.

880
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,240
And I have 40 stories where homelessness doesn't mean the exact same thing.

881
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:22,760
Now, some of the, some of the solutions absolutely can help each person, but the stories aren't

882
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,560
exactly the same.

883
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,120
A few minutes ago, you mentioned the government pause there for a second.

884
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,440
We were all raised on the four basic food groups, which I think were first released

885
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,360
by the government in 1956.

886
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,640
And it was the government's food pyramid.

887
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,440
Is that what we should be following for not just a balanced diet, but the best diet for

888
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,560
optimal health performance?

889
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,480
I still believe so.

890
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,920
I still believe so.

891
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:52,120
And again, I think our biggest thing, if you look at what's the problem versus what should

892
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,080
we fall back on?

893
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,160
The problem is fast food.

894
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480
The problem is gas station food.

895
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,240
The problem, you know, I worked with the oil field, the oil field and some, if you go to

896
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:03,960
North Dakota, there's nothing but gas stations.

897
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,640
They will eat hot dogs out of gas stations for six weeks at a time.

898
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,880
One of the most unhealthy industries I've ever worked with, other than truckers, right?

899
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,400
The cross country truckers.

900
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,600
So if you look at how we could backwards this stuff versus trying to find the end all, be

901
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,000
all, then backwards into it, how can we reduce, you know, fast food so it's not three times

902
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,640
a day?

903
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,000
Why can we take the chemicals out of it that actually make us crave it?

904
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,480
Could we turn, you know, these, how many people are eating salads out of McDonald's anymore?

905
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,320
Well, they're full of, you know, garbage, as you have pointed out.

906
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,760
You know, garbage, as you have called it, the garbage plate.

907
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,520
I would love us to start here and go back a little bit, which not many people want to do.

908
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,360
Not many people want to look in the past.

909
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,720
They want to keep going and develop new things and spark people in different directions and

910
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,320
get the biggest bang for the buck.

911
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,360
But I wouldn't answer that probably the same way as I would when I was 28.

912
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000
But as 58, I have a different view.

913
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,200
I have grandchildren now.

914
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,280
Things look differently.

915
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,840
I mean, they take them to fast food for what?

916
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,600
Cheap, quick, get it done.

917
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,120
The kids want it and it's over.

918
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,240
There's no cooking in the kitchen.

919
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:12,600
There's no lasagna being made.

920
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,880
There's no boiling chicken.

921
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,480
And there's excuses.

922
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Well, we work too much.

923
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,840
Well, you know what?

924
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,400
I did, too.

925
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,440
I worked 17 hours a day back then, too.

926
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:20,920
I get it.

927
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,760
So I get fired up.

928
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Where's my microphone, Chris?

929
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,120
I get fired up.

930
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,440
That's a tough subject with me because it's just like you and I are having conversations

931
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120
on going back to what worked.

932
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,560
Well, let's go back to what worked.

933
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,320
Well, let's get there.

934
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,440
You're a sports performance nutritionist.

935
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:39,880
Okay.

936
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,280
You're a sports performance nutritionist.

937
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,280
When it comes to the highest performing athletes, what percentage of their results can be connected

938
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,880
to the nutrition and how disciplined do they have to be to stay at that peak level?

939
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Oh, you're going to take me down a deep subject again.

940
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,320
I'll go to 80-20.

941
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,640
I always say get a B, get a B plus on anything.

942
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,800
If you ate eight out of 10 times, healthy.

943
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,280
If you moved 80% of the time.

944
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,280
High performance athletes are a little bit different.

945
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,480
What do they do?

946
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,680
They get an A plus.

947
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,560
That's what they do, Chris.

948
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,480
We're like, we're going to go to the gym seven days a week.

949
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,320
I'm going to run a marathon 26 miles.

950
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,280
I'm going to focus on that.

951
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,600
So why I developed my wheel is so that when you call me in six months and your marriage

952
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,000
fell apart, you lost your house because you didn't open your mail and all these things,

953
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,760
sacrifices and can focus.

954
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They have their own personal trainers, their own massage therapist, their own nutritionist.

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It's very sports specific.

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If I'm working with a golfer and their physical activity based on their nutrition and their

957
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flexibility, it's going to be different than over here with my power lifter who needs to

958
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eat 7,000 calories a day.

959
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,320
So that sports specificity is what a bowler...

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00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,000
They can still be experts and lose their relationships because they bowl.

961
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Nobody is immune to that.

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So you mismentioned all the fast food and how easy it is for us to go to the gas station

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and get a lousy burrito or a hot dog.

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It's very hard for many of us to follow the right diet.

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As you mentioned, we're busy.

966
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We can be lazy or undisciplined about eating the right thing every day.

967
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How do we get into that right routine and stay there when it comes to nutrition?

968
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We always called it Sunday, plan for the week, food prep.

969
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Food prep began a big term probably 10 years ago.

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I think that having it prepared is the only way.

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When I talk about moderation, I say to people, don't bring home what you would eat at 10 p.m.

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when the kids go to bed and you're tired.

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Don't bring that home.

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And if you do bring it home in one serving.

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We have portion distortion in America.

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We think the more is the better.

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And the average guy eats three or four cups of spaghetti in a sitting versus the one cup

978
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,920
that's on the back of the nutrients label calorically.

979
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,640
I mean, even a monster drink is what?

980
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Three servings.

981
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We're not reading the labels.

982
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I would say that preparation makes the most sense.

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Getting ready for when you're tired, looking at the back of labels and getting rid of ingredients

984
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,720
you can't say that have three syllables or more.

985
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,720
You can get rid of 500 calories a day just reducing some condiments.

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Start simple.

987
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,720
You don't have to eat kale.

988
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I say that every day.

989
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,520
You don't have to do squats.

990
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Walking has been proven over a period of time.

991
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,360
If you walk every day for 30 minutes for the rest of your life, you would be healthier

992
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,960
than hanging and banging in the gym for that 10 years when you were in your 20s.

993
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:35,000
So if walking works and reducing some of the yucky things work, then let's start there.

994
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:41,080
But without an accountability team too, you know, that's tough because we do lie to ourselves.

995
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,320
We absolutely make those excuses.

996
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,960
So I say start simple.

997
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,120
I keep all of my veggies, everything cut up in glass containers, but I didn't get here

998
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,760
overnight.

999
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
You know, it takes a while to get that prepared.

1000
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,640
So we've talked about a lot of the different things of being well, whether it be physically,

1001
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,200
emotionally, mentally, all that.

1002
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,080
How can people manage stress in their daily lives?

1003
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,320
I just did a video on that.

1004
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,040
It's so funny.

1005
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,000
I actually have a grid.

1006
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,720
Where did I put it?

1007
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:13,720
So to me, there's three types of stress.

1008
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,680
There's acute, there's chronic, and there's burnout.

1009
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Some of them are, and they could be acute.

1010
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,800
We need stress.

1011
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,280
So stress in the sense of like you're planning for a beautiful wedding is stressful, and

1012
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,440
your body's going to react the same if it's a beautiful wedding or you're going through

1013
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,320
a foreclosure.

1014
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Blood pressure's up, not sleeping, tense, mindset, nobody wants to be around you.

1015
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,120
They're two very different events, but the body reacts the same.

1016
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Chronic stress acts for a longer period of time.

1017
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,360
So it could be six months of a chronic stress, and then burnout often hits the one-year mark,

1018
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,360
and you can relate that to disease states.

1019
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,320
Diabetes kicks in, overweight kicks in, all of those sleep apnea kicks in.

1020
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,120
So in regards to stress, whatever phase that you're in, and what is stress to someone?

1021
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,880
For me, when I lose my sleep, my stress equates to sleep.

1022
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Is it stress for overeating?

1023
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Stress for undereating?

1024
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,320
Stress for not calling your mom?

1025
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,520
Some people are recluses and just go into their bedroom and watch baking shows for their

1026
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,080
stress.

1027
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,920
But I think the most important, in my grid, what I was saying in my video is what is the

1028
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,320
stress?

1029
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,440
What happened?

1030
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Blood pressure, what happened?

1031
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,560
And then what caused it next?

1032
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,880
Did mom upset you, a negative person?

1033
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,240
And then what would you do differently next time?

1034
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,800
And it's the what would you do differently next time that needs to be focused on.

1035
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,720
A lot of folks are traveling this time of year, so obviously middle of the summer.

1036
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,800
How do we eat right, exercise enough, and sleep well when our schedules are being disrupted

1037
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,360
by travel?

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Planes, trains, and automobiles.

1039
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,360
Another video, Chris, thank you.

1040
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,080
Planes, trains, and automobiles.

1041
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,120
So when I prep people for their travels, it's very different on what you can bring for your

1042
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,280
airplane versus what you can bring in your car.

1043
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Obviously, if you have a cooler, you can have your cut-up veggies and fruits and get away

1044
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,280
with it, your yogurts, all that stuff.

1045
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,560
But it's also important to bring along the things that work in a physical sense.

1046
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,320
You can bring your rubber bands.

1047
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,040
You can bring your walking shoes.

1048
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,800
You've got to look at the type of vacation.

1049
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,080
If I'm going to the beach and it's 95 degrees, my physical activity might not look the exact

1050
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,800
same as if I went to see you in Connecticut.

1051
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,640
So plane, what's happening?

1052
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,680
Trains and automobiles.

1053
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,080
When you get on your vacations, there's a theory that people are all or nothing.

1054
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:29,880
Well, I'm on vacation.

1055
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,080
I'm going to do what I want.

1056
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,840
I'm going to drink what I want, eat what I want.

1057
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,680
They're going to do everything that they want.

1058
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,520
But then you have to come home and clean it up.

1059
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:43,320
So I say, make sure that two or three days before, I'm not saying to amp into it and

1060
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,280
start drinking.

1061
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,400
I'm not saying that.

1062
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,440
But that all or nothing is going to come home and take about two weeks.

1063
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,800
So if you have one week vacation and two weeks to try to get back on track, maybe walk the

1064
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,840
stairs in a cruise ship.

1065
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,240
When I went on a cruise, we never took the elevator.

1066
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:07,480
So how can you be creative to drink at the bar and still get physically active?

1067
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,280
Peggy Wilms, author of the fourfold formula for all things wellness,

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win the wellness war, wellness GPS, get prepared for success with all things wellness and

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,280
unsheltered coming out soon.

1070
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,360
Thank you so much for being with us today.

1071
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,440
You're welcome.

1072
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,720
Thank you for having me.

1073
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:24,840
Absolute pleasure and joy.

1074
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,280
And I really hope you'll come back another time.

1075
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,640
Yes.

1076
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,200
Give me a call.

1077
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Have your people call my people.

1078
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,080
We're each other's people, right?

1079
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,000
I'll call.

1080
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,200
And thanks for audience, which now includes people in over 50 countries for joining us

1081
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,280
for another episode of Next Steps Forward.

1082
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,080
I'm Chris Meek.

1083
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,680
For more details and upcoming shows and guests, please follow me on Facebook at

1084
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1086
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,000
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1087
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Sorry.

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00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,560
We'll be back next Tuesday, same time, same place with another leader from the world of

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business, politics, public policy, sports, entertainment.

1090
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Until then, stay safe and keep taking your next steps forward.

1091
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Thanks for tuning in to Next Steps Forward.

1092
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Be sure to join Chris Meek for another great show next Tuesday at 10 a.m.

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00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,720
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This week, make things happen in your life.