UnchainedTV: Chef Mario Fabbri Reveals Life-changing Cooking Secrets!

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Takes is one simple choice.

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Now, here's your host, Jane Velez Mitchell.

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Hello, everybody.

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I am so jazzed, delighted, excited to have

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one of my favourite people on the planet

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with us today, Chef Mario Fabri.

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He was one of the first vegan cooking

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shows on television.

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And you can see he did it for

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a long time because he has a lot

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of different hairstyles.

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It's unbelievable.

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And we are so thrilled that right now

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on Unchained TV, 22 episodes of Trying Vegan

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with Mario are streaming.

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So you just can go to watch.unchainedtv

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.com or just go to unchainedtv.com and

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you can see this incredible cooking show.

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Take a look at some of the dishes.

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Oh my gosh, that avocado toast, totally taken

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to the next level.

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Chef Mario Fabri, wow.

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How did you learn to cook the way

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you do?

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Well, first of all, thank you so much

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for having me.

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I'm so glad to have all my shows

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on your streaming service.

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It is such an honour with everything that

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you've been doing for the vegan movement, the

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transformations that you've had in people's lives is

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incredible.

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So it's just an honour and pleasure to

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be here.

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And learning how to cook, I mean, it

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goes way back.

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I guess we'll start with the inception.

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So I actually was born to the father

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of an owner of an Italian sausage factory.

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So I grew up in the food business

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my entire life.

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My first job was 14 years old at

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a pizzeria.

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And growing up working at a sausage factory,

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I always thought I'd be a part of

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the food business in some way or another.

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And I remember being just a little kid

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in the kitchen with my grandma, Rosie, testing

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different spice blends for her Italian sausages and

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Italian beefs and just being fascinated by the

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food industry, but not even realising that many

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years later, I would go the complete opposite

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direction, still in the food industry, but leave

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the meat supplying industry, become vegan and start

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learning how to cook vegan food.

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So I always knew I was interested in

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the food, but I didn't know in what

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way it would turn out.

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And once I turned about in my early

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20s, I witnessed one of my best friends

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go through an incredible transformation.

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He lost a tonne of weight, totally did

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the whole glow up thing, got new energy,

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transformed his attitude about life.

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And that was one of the first things

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that really inspired me to rethink the food

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that I was eating because what he had

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mentioned was he just started eating more plant

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-based food and that's what started to transform

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his body and his health.

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He ditched the fast food, he ditched the

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Italian sausage, and I saw it make a

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huge difference in his life.

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So I thought, you know, I know a

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lot about food.

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This is something that I wanna commit my

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life to, but now I'm starting to think

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maybe that eating sausage for breakfast, lunch, and

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dinner isn't necessarily the best way to do

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it.

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I was blessed living in Boulder, Colorado, where

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I was getting interested in videography and film.

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And I thought, you know, why not start

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making some cooking videos where I learn about

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food and share the things that I'm learning?

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And through that whole process, I read a

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tonne of books.

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One of my favourite books was Eat to

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Live by Dr. Joel Fuhrman and that book

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really put the science and the data and

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the research behind the transformation that I saw,

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happen in my friend.

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So was I saw a doctor talk about

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how he was reversing serious chronic illnesses like

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heart disease and diabetes, and even talking about

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the effects food can have on cancer.

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And then not only was he talking about

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it, but he showed me and introduced me

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to people who had gone through this transformation

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where they went from the standard American diet,

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you know, eating the sausage patty breakfast sandwiches

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from McDonald's, and now they're eating healthy whole

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foods, they're eating plant-based, and they no

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longer have issues with heart disease.

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They are no longer needing these dramatic heart

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surgeries that are supposedly gonna save their lives,

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but all they really did was change the

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way that they eat.

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So once I saw the transformation that food

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can have on your body, it made me

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realise that, you know, I need to start

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eating some of this food.

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And I'm not gonna lie, the first time

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I ate a kale salad, I couldn't even

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get it down.

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So from there, I went back to my

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roots of testing different spice blends and trying

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to figure out the best recipes, the things

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I grew up learning about, and decided to

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apply it towards food.

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So I took that inspiration and that background

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in the food industry and just started studying

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and learning and studying.

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And I'm a firm believer that you can

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learn how to do something through experience.

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You can learn how to do something from

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your self-research.

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And one of the best ways to learn

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how to do something is ask people who

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know how to do it.

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So as you can see on my cooking

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show, one of the things I did to

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learn how to cook was I started inviting

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these expert chefs, like there's a picture on

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the screen right now, that was me with

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a chef near the Grand Canyon, and he

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prepares these incredible vegan burgers.

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He teaches me how to whip together something

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that's hearty, that's filling, that's delicious, but it's

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plant-based.

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One of the main ingredients in that burger

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is hemp seeds.

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It's just so good for you.

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And I was able to learn from a

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pro who manages the kitchens of five different

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restaurants, came into his kitchen, he taught me

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some tips, and with my background and my

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learning and passion for videography, we started turning

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it into a cooking show that eventually became

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Tryin' Vegan with Mario.

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There we have a tempeh bacon sandwich.

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There we have, I'm out with some famous

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DJs, Cruella.

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I had fun teaching them a recipe.

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But it really was that dedication to making

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food that I could actually enjoy because I

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was so addicted to the high-sodium, high

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-fat, high-meat diet that I had grown

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up on, that I was accustomed to, that

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I thought I wanted to do for the

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rest of my life.

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So it was just a quick knowledge from

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experts and trial and error.

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Well, I'm so impressed.

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I have so many questions, but we've already

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got a caller.

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Michelle from Los Angeles, your question, your thought

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for Chef Mario Fabri of Tryin' Vegan with

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Mario, now streaming on Unchained TV.

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Hi, Jane.

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Hi, Mario.

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Thanks for having me.

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Very inspiring story.

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I also was able to help my mom

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get off of her diabetes medication, heart medication,

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and all of that, high-blood pressure medication,

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because I had to cook for her.

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I started as a vegan eating out all

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the time, and it wasn't until I had

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to cook for her that I started cooking

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for me.

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So I guess my question is, what advice

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would you give as far as shaking it

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up and making it less boring with the

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spices and everything?

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Because I don't really cook, but I've become

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a cook, and I don't know how to

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combine things.

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I just test things.

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What's your best advice for that?

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And what's your favourite dish to make that's

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easy?

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That's a good one.

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So my advice for that is, a good

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way to start is think of a cultural

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essence, because a lot of different cultural foods

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have core spice blends.

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Like when I'm thinking about Italian cooking, it

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was anise and fennel and kind of these

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hot peppery, but add in a little bit

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of sweetness.

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So we got anise, we got fennel, we

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got garlic, paprika, onion powder.

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So that's kind of the core in Italian

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cooking.

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And then if you think of something like

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Indian food, you got your cumin, you got

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your turmeric, you got more of these kind

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of earthy, like hot, kick you in the

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back of the throat spices.

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And then there's Mexican food, and there's so

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many different varieties of cultures.

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And if you just do a little bit

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of research into like a cultural food, you'll

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find that there's typically like four to six

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spices that go in almost every single dish.

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And then once you find the ones that

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combine well, and you know like, oh, this

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is like the Italian spice blend, then it

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becomes like so easy to just apply that

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to everything.

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So I'd say, you know, think about like

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a genre of food that you like, and

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then try and master their spice combinations pretty

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simply.

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And then on top of those spices, like

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throwing in like herbs help a tonne.

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Basil is one of my favourite things.

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A quick little tip on basil is that

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basil and a lot of herbs they release

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their flavours when you just like gently rub

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the like leaves.

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So if you just have a basil plant

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at home, and I have one in my

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kitchen right now, you smell it and then

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take one of the leaves and then just

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rub the leaves.

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on your fingers.

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And then you smell it again, and the

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scent and the flavour is like a hundred

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X.

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So using herbs, and then you don't even

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have to chop the herbs.

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If you just take your fingers and you

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gently tear them and you kind of like

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massage them.

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I don't know if you've ever massaged kale.

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That's another technique for transforming the texture of

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kale.

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But if you just kind of like tear

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and massage your herbs, it releases like a

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tonne of flavour and a tonne of aroma

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that's gonna enhance your cooking a lot.

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And then I'll say like my favourite kind

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of quick, easy recipe.

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This isn't a full complete dish, but it's

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something that goes great with so many things.

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And it's a very introductory recipe.

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And backing up to my cooking show, you

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can watch this whole episode on Unchained TV.

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But I do this episode with Mr. Wonderful

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from Shark Tank.

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And a lot of us know Mr. Wonderful

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for being hardcore, just kind of like the

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Grinch of Shark Tank.

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And you know, somebody who's just gonna grill

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you.

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And he actually- You're talking about Kevin

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O'Leary.

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Yeah, Kevin O'Leary.

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Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank.

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And I'm a big Shark Tank person.

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You know, I don't necessarily agree with a

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lot of the capitalistic values of the show,

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but I will say as someone who grew

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up watching it, it definitely inspired me to

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take an alternative path.

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And I don't think I'd be where I

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am today if not for content like that.

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So I do have a lot of appreciation

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for it.

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But Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, he said

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he's got a son who has a vegan

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girlfriend.

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They do a tonne of family dinners and

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he has no idea what to make for

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his son's girlfriend.

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So he came to me and I decided

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to teach him super simple cashew cheese.

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And Michelle, you might've made this before.

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It's like one of the first things you

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learn in vegan cooking sometimes.

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But all it is is cashews, nutritional yeast,

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garlic powder, olive oil.

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I like to add in hemp seeds.

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Hemp seeds have like an extra creamy, nutty

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fattiness to it.

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And the way you make it is you

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start with a cup of cashews and you

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soak those in water overnight.

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So you just take your cashews, you pour

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them in a bowl of water and you

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let those soak, leave them in the fridge

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overnight or for at least two hours.

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What that's gonna do is it's gonna soften

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up the cashews.

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You'll even see after if you take cashew

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out of the water and you squeeze it

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through your fingers, it's gonna break up pretty

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easily.

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So it's gonna soften the cashews.

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And then it removes this like kind of

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like film layer that's on the outside of

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a cashew nut that's a little bit harder

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to digest.

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And it's not the most appealing flavour of

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the cashew to it.

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So you soak your cashews overnight and then

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you take that one cup of cashews, you

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put it in with a drizzle, you put

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it in a blender with a drizzle of

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olive oil, about a teaspoon of garlic powder,

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about like, I go like two or three

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tablespoons of nutritional yeast, because I love that

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stuff.

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And then add in about a tablespoon of

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hemp seeds, a sprinkle of salt, a little

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juice of a half of a lemon.

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And then you blend that and you can

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eat it right out of the blender.

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It's really good.

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If you refrigerate it, it'll firm up a

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little bit and have a little bit of

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a thicker texture.

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But that cashew cheese, spread it on a

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sandwich, throw it in your pasta, even like

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top it on a salad.

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If you know with Mr. Wonderful, he made

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a Greek salad, which is basically just like

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cucumbers and tomatoes and red onions.

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And a lot of times those Greek salads,

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they'll have like feta on top of them.

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So they'll have like a crumbly cheese.

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And I told him just, you know, take

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the cashew cheese and drop a dollop here,

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a dollop here, a dollop here.

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And that'll be like your cheesiness to your

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Greek salad and it'll make it be.

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And so that cashew cheese is a really

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good first recipe I love to teach people.

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We've got another caller, Nilo Farr from Dallas,

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Texas.

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Your question or thought for Chef Mario Fowbry,

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whose 22 episodes are now streaming on Unchained

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TV.

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Hello, I'm an animal activist in Dallas, Fort

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Worth, and I'm so thrilled to get acquainted

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with your work on Unchained TV.

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According to the abolitionist approach to animal rights,

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the moral baseline should be veganism.

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For example, Dr. Fuhrman is not a vegan

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physician as he discusses minimising animal products and

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veganism is about taking a stand against speciesism.

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Springboarding on your major TikTok and Instagram success,

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do you occasionally insert ethical arguments?

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Thanks.

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Let me answer that first and then I'll

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give it to you because this is something

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that I heard from Jean Bauer of Farm

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Sanctuary, which is we accept people wherever they

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are on the journey.

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Very few of us were born vegan.

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I just did a podcast this morning where

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I explained to the host how I went

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vegan after the fourth generation cattle rancher turned

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vegan activist Howard Lyman was my interview subject.

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And then he basically confronted me after the

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interview and I was a vegetarian and he

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convinced me to go vegan in about two

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seconds by calling dairy liquid meat and pointing

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at my nose.

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But the point is that I had a

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long transition and most people have a transition.

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It's a process, not an event.

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For some people, it's an event, but for

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99% of the people, it's a process.

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And I know you started your cooking show

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before you were 100% vegan and now

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you are.

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Tell us a little bit about that.

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Yeah, correct.

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So the inception of the show was I

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was actually representing non-vegans.

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I was Chef Mario or not even Chef

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Mario at the time.

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I was just Mario who worked at his

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dad's sausage factory who grew up eating the

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most insane meat diet.

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And then all of a sudden out of

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the blue learned about health benefits of plant

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-based food and then also started to learn

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about the consciousness inside of an animal and

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the way that we can treat animals with

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such more compassion and view them as a

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different thing other than just meat, especially growing

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up around a sausage factory.

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Like I literally, I mean, it's gross to

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think about and talk about, but like a

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sausage factory, it's just pork carcasses.

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We would get carcasses shipped to the factory

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and then they'd get cut down and then

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they'd get ground up and turn into sausage

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and meatballs.

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So that was like so normal for me.

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And the show was all about, can I

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be, can I transform my opinion?

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Can I find food that I like?

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And it started out as just being a

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cooking show and it started out being like

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learning about food because I got brought in

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from the health benefits.

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But I eventually early on in this actually

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met Jane and she was the first person

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that really opened me up to the animal's

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perspective of the food that I had been

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eating previously.

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So for me, it was a long transformation.

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And then even from there, it was so

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heavily inspired.

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And then I wanted to go back to

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my dad and tell him, dad, we got

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to shut down the sausage factory.

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And I remember coming home for Christmas dinner

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and transforming all of his family famous holiday

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recipes and trying to veganize them.

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And we got in a serious argument and

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a serious fight.

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And I realised that for me, it took

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some time.

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So for me to come home and just

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expect him to change overnight, especially when his

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life was ingrained in this way of thinking

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even longer than mine was, my grandpa started

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the sausage factory.

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My dad was working at it from birth,

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grew it, took over the business.

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And now I'm expecting him to just change

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overnight, quit his business that is his income

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and completely change his perspective because I come

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home for a holiday dinner.

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And I realised that for some people, it

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is that light switch.

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For some people, I do think for sure

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that you don't even recognise animal slaughter and

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then you see it, then you realise it.

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I think that that approach might apply a

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lot better to younger people.

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I don't know how graphic we wanna show

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the food industry towards people who are like

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under 14 years old, but I think the

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earlier you start, the earlier you make that

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connection that you don't wanna be eating this

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animal.

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This animal is just like your puppy.

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This animal is just like your kitten.

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You have that youthful, that your brain is

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a little bit more plastic in your way

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of thinking that I think perhaps that's a

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quicker way to make that transition.

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Again, I noticed in my dad, this has

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been his entire life.

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So I definitely think that for me, it

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was about taking a slower approach with certain

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people.

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Definitely jumping the gun and trying to express

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all my feelings for the animals right out

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the gate.

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But if that didn't click, then it was,

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I really wanna get through to this person.

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And I understand it could be hard for

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some people.

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It could be hard to make that connection.

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It could be hard to change your beliefs

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about anything, anything you've believed your whole life

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for 50 years, all of a sudden someone's

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trying to change it in an instant.

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That could be challenging.

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So I definitely think that there is a

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different change that could happen amongst everybody.

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And it's my mission, especially through my cooking

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show, I don't talk as much about the

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animal advocacy.

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My main goal with the show is make

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food that tastes so good that people don't

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even think about it.

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Make food that makes people not even acknowledge

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the fact that they're changing the way that

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they eat.

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And then that connection might become easier for

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them.

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That's just my approach, but I certainly, you

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know, am open to feedback and other ways

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of doing it.

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But that's kind of my approach.

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Well, you absolutely do that.

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As I was uploading all your videos and

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I had seen the show before, but I

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really got a chance to study it.

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And honestly, I was taking notes because I

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wanna make a cauliflower wings and you have

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a great cauliflower wings recipe.

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Just for example, I love to make vegan

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cupcakes.

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That's a little more elevated.

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I don't know if I'm there yet, but

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I think I can handle the cupcakes.

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But the other thing that I really love

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about your show, and it's particularly when Dr.

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Joel Fuhrman is on, is that you talk

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about the nutritional value of vegan food.

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Like tumeric, like hemp seeds.

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Let's check out this little clip and we'll

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talk about it on the other side.

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Tumeric right here.

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Tumeric, very powerful anti-cancer material.

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That's right.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's anti-inflammatory.

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Yep, and it stops the cancer cell growth,

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right?

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It's increasing.

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That's why this whole dish is so spectacular.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Squeeze in, we got one tablespoon of peanut

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butter.

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All right, good.

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Well, here's the, and then we're gonna add

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the hemp seeds.

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The hemp seeds are high in protein, but

541
00:19:58,270 --> 00:20:00,610
keep in mind, this recipe has no oil

542
00:20:00,610 --> 00:20:00,910
in it.

543
00:20:01,290 --> 00:20:02,950
All the fat's gonna come from the peanut

544
00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:05,230
butter and the hemp seeds and the coconut.

545
00:20:05,650 --> 00:20:08,070
In other words, whole food fats, because the

546
00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:10,550
whole food gives you nutrients, but the oil

547
00:20:10,550 --> 00:20:12,130
doesn't give you any nutrients, and no fibre,

548
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:13,070
and no protein.

549
00:20:13,450 --> 00:20:14,890
Hemp seeds are high in protein, the peanut

550
00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:15,590
butter's high in protein.

551
00:20:15,770 --> 00:20:17,750
So when you take something like hemp or

552
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:21,410
olives, and then you, what's the word for

553
00:20:21,410 --> 00:20:21,510
it?

554
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:22,430
You squeeze it, you just crush it.

555
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:23,510
You squeeze the oil out of it, you

556
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:25,090
threw in the fibre, you threw in the

557
00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:25,310
oils.

558
00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:27,030
Exactly, you refine it, and then you're just

559
00:20:27,030 --> 00:20:28,710
left with that fat, and that fat is

560
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:30,370
what's gonna make you fat, right?

561
00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:30,770
That's right.

562
00:20:31,950 --> 00:20:34,850
No wiser words have ever been spoken.

563
00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:37,550
That fat is what's gonna make you fat,

564
00:20:37,690 --> 00:20:39,070
and you're absolutely right.

565
00:20:40,890 --> 00:20:43,830
Honestly, it was a while back that got

566
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:45,910
the wake-up call from somebody who said

567
00:20:45,910 --> 00:20:48,490
that I was pouring all this oil, and

568
00:20:48,490 --> 00:20:50,210
I never even thought of the calories.

569
00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:51,690
Like when you look at an ice cream,

570
00:20:51,810 --> 00:20:53,470
a vegan ice cream or a vegan cake,

571
00:20:53,530 --> 00:20:54,970
you think, okay, that's got calories.

572
00:20:55,130 --> 00:20:58,630
But you don't honestly think about calories and

573
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:58,930
oil.

574
00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:01,830
Now I have the spray, and I just

575
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:05,410
try to spray a tiny little bit if

576
00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:08,510
I need to spray, not taking, I'm no

577
00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:10,550
longer drenching anything with oil.

578
00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:14,050
Yeah, like one tablespoon of olive oil is

579
00:21:14,050 --> 00:21:15,110
like 120 calories.

580
00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:16,850
It's a lot.

581
00:21:17,070 --> 00:21:19,550
And that clip is kind of a great

582
00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:21,650
example of where this show came from and

583
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:21,990
is gone.

584
00:21:22,110 --> 00:21:23,050
You know, that was one of the earlier

585
00:21:23,050 --> 00:21:24,690
episodes where I didn't really know what I

586
00:21:24,690 --> 00:21:25,370
was doing in a kitchen.

587
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:27,550
You know, I was like trying hemp seeds

588
00:21:27,550 --> 00:21:28,570
for the first time.

589
00:21:28,570 --> 00:21:29,890
Now I'm preaching hemp seeds.

590
00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:31,330
Now I'm eating tonnes of hemp seeds.

591
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:33,970
So it was people showing me the food

592
00:21:33,970 --> 00:21:35,790
that helped make that transformation for me.

593
00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:38,810
So yeah, that's a good little tip from

594
00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:39,430
Dr. Fuhrman.

595
00:21:39,570 --> 00:21:41,970
Again, he's the doctor expert.

596
00:21:43,230 --> 00:21:45,530
And yeah, very grateful to learn those lessons.

597
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:47,950
And I've taken those recipes and I make

598
00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:48,770
them all the time today.

599
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:50,890
So let me say that I find your

600
00:21:50,890 --> 00:21:52,710
personal story fascinating.

601
00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:58,350
You are third generation in the meat industry

602
00:21:58,350 --> 00:22:00,150
and you had a change.

603
00:22:00,650 --> 00:22:02,790
So I'm very curious about a couple of

604
00:22:02,790 --> 00:22:02,950
things.

605
00:22:03,050 --> 00:22:04,350
First of all, I'd like to say that

606
00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:06,450
some of the leaders in our movement, one

607
00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:08,890
is the heir to the Baskin Robbins fortune

608
00:22:08,890 --> 00:22:12,490
who went vegan and has become a bestseller

609
00:22:12,490 --> 00:22:16,230
and a very, very huge proponent of a

610
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:17,810
plant-based diet.

611
00:22:18,490 --> 00:22:19,630
So it happens.

612
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:22,470
There's another man I know who was an

613
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:24,510
heir to some kind of meat fortune.

614
00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:27,450
And I only found that out surreptitiously, but

615
00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:29,170
who runs a major vegan site.

616
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:31,770
So I think it's not as uncommon as

617
00:22:31,770 --> 00:22:34,030
we think, but I wanna go back to

618
00:22:34,030 --> 00:22:35,410
your father.

619
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:37,270
I don't know if your father and your

620
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:39,690
grandfather are here with us, but have they

621
00:22:39,690 --> 00:22:40,670
changed at all?

622
00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:42,970
How do they think about, how do they

623
00:22:42,970 --> 00:22:45,090
feel about your show and your transformation?

624
00:22:46,270 --> 00:22:48,290
Yeah, so my dad is with us and

625
00:22:48,290 --> 00:22:49,030
I mean, he loves it.

626
00:22:49,090 --> 00:22:50,650
He supports anything that I do.

627
00:22:51,310 --> 00:22:55,110
And he'll like, it's a point of pride

628
00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:56,730
anytime he eats a vegan dish.

629
00:22:56,730 --> 00:22:59,130
He hasn't totally transformed the way that he

630
00:22:59,130 --> 00:22:59,510
eats.

631
00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:02,630
And he's very supportive.

632
00:23:03,070 --> 00:23:06,270
We even experimented with making vegan sausages and

633
00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:08,250
trying to see if that was attainable for

634
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:09,010
his business.

635
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:11,490
And I'd have him test out different vegan

636
00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:13,630
sausages from the grocery stores that I would

637
00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:15,050
bring home or he would test out my

638
00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:15,410
recipes.

639
00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:17,190
So he's certainly been supportive.

640
00:23:17,370 --> 00:23:21,970
He's continued to educate me on how to

641
00:23:21,970 --> 00:23:22,950
make the best foods.

642
00:23:23,130 --> 00:23:24,730
He's a little bit of a food scientist.

643
00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:28,450
So he knows how to create emulsifying ingredients.

644
00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:31,090
He knows how to let proteins sit and

645
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:33,990
rest that they form a more meaty texture.

646
00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:35,750
And he knows how to apply that towards

647
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,050
different types of ingredients, even in the plant

648
00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:38,610
-based realm.

649
00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:40,850
So we've just really scratched the surface.

650
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:44,130
It would be a dream.

651
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:45,930
My girlfriend and I joke about starting our

652
00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:47,850
own vegan sausage business and having him be

653
00:23:47,850 --> 00:23:48,690
our food scientist.

654
00:23:50,050 --> 00:23:51,910
That's the long-term dream.

655
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:53,610
But right now we're kind of at that

656
00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:55,570
stage where my dad just brags when he

657
00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:57,650
eats a vegan meal, he eats more of

658
00:23:57,650 --> 00:23:58,970
them than he ever did before.

659
00:23:59,530 --> 00:24:03,330
He hasn't totally made the shift, but baby

660
00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:03,650
steps.

661
00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:06,130
Absolutely, baby steps.

662
00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:08,370
We gotta, I always say, we don't wanna

663
00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:09,450
be an exclusive club.

664
00:24:09,650 --> 00:24:10,910
We don't wanna be a club at all.

665
00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:13,410
We wanna basically hit the tipping point and

666
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:14,310
become the norm.

667
00:24:14,770 --> 00:24:16,550
And the clock's ticking.

668
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:18,830
We have a very short period of time

669
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:20,330
to make that transition.

670
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:25,010
A point that actually Dr. Silas Rao, and

671
00:24:25,010 --> 00:24:27,850
Unchained TV did a documentary about Dr. Silas

672
00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:28,110
Rao.

673
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:30,430
He recently was part of a team that

674
00:24:30,430 --> 00:24:32,670
won the Oxford Union debate.

675
00:24:33,170 --> 00:24:36,270
Oxford Union is a debate club associated with

676
00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:37,510
Oxford University.

677
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:39,490
And it's very prestigious.

678
00:24:39,490 --> 00:24:42,590
The likes of Albert Einstein and Mother Teresa

679
00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:44,070
have spoken there.

680
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,870
And he was recently a part of this

681
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:47,250
debate.

682
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:49,690
And he made the point that we've got

683
00:24:49,690 --> 00:24:51,990
a very short period of time to make

684
00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:53,750
the transition to a plant-based diet.

685
00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:55,830
Let's hear a little bit about what he

686
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:57,950
said in his winning debate argument.

687
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:59,530
And we'll talk about it on the other

688
00:24:59,530 --> 00:24:59,710
side.

689
00:24:59,730 --> 00:25:02,930
It is undeniable that human civilisation has adversely

690
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:04,870
impacted life support systems on the planet.

691
00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:10,590
Scientists have identified nine planetary boundaries that we

692
00:25:10,590 --> 00:25:12,670
must stay within for the sustainability of life

693
00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:13,090
on earth.

694
00:25:13,810 --> 00:25:16,050
At the moment, we have transgressed six of

695
00:25:16,050 --> 00:25:16,250
them.

696
00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:20,670
And any one of these transgressions is enough

697
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:22,810
to kill life as we know it on

698
00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:23,250
this planet.

699
00:25:24,810 --> 00:25:27,610
The good news is that when we go

700
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:31,790
vegan, we help resolve all six of them.

701
00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:36,510
That's the power we have as individuals to

702
00:25:36,510 --> 00:25:38,010
reverse our existential crisis.

703
00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:43,330
Animal agriculture is the leading cause of ecological

704
00:25:43,330 --> 00:25:48,510
destruction because it uses 37% of the

705
00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:50,990
ice-free land area of the planet just

706
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:55,350
to graze animals, while bottom trawling an area

707
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:58,070
of the ocean floor the size of South

708
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:59,430
America every year.

709
00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:03,010
So, first of all, thanks to Plant-Based

710
00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:04,470
News for giving us that clip.

711
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:10,270
Again, while I want to take a relaxed

712
00:26:10,270 --> 00:26:12,590
approach and give everybody all the time they

713
00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:16,250
need, there's also this sense of urgency that

714
00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:18,770
due to the destructive nature of animal agriculture

715
00:26:18,770 --> 00:26:22,590
and the accelerating climate crisis, I mean, here

716
00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:24,390
in LA, we just went through three days

717
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:27,870
of unprecedented storms with catastrophic flooding.

718
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:30,610
I'm happy to say I'm okay, but a

719
00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:31,590
lot of people are not.

720
00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:34,190
I know just this morning, I found out

721
00:26:34,190 --> 00:26:35,270
that a party I thought it was going

722
00:26:35,270 --> 00:26:36,930
to was cancelled because the home was completely

723
00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:37,330
flooded.

724
00:26:39,070 --> 00:26:39,950
It's happening.

725
00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:40,970
It's happening now.

726
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:43,950
And a solution is to switch to a

727
00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:44,870
plant-based diet.

728
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:49,470
In fact, there was an Oxford University study

729
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:51,710
recently published in the New York Times that

730
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,870
no other publication picked up on that shows

731
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:57,710
that a heavy meat eater, which is most

732
00:26:57,710 --> 00:27:01,410
Americans, can reduce their emissions footprint by 75

733
00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:04,590
% by switching to a plant-based diet.

734
00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:07,350
Of course, no other media picked that up

735
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:09,410
when they spend hours covering what I call

736
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:13,030
catastrophe porn of terrible things happening as a

737
00:27:13,030 --> 00:27:14,090
result of climate change.

738
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:15,730
What are your thoughts on that?

739
00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:19,590
How do we balance being laid back and

740
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:23,250
kind and take it slow with the approaching,

741
00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:25,310
let's face it, climate apocalypse?

742
00:27:27,050 --> 00:27:27,810
Oh, wow.

743
00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:32,650
I mean, I just wanna highlight something you

744
00:27:32,650 --> 00:27:35,550
said there, which was catastrophe porn, which unfortunately

745
00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:38,770
has become a lot of people's favourite consumption

746
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:40,010
of media these days.

747
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:45,870
Just overwhelming amounts of kind of fear that's

748
00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:46,230
happening.

749
00:27:46,590 --> 00:27:48,410
And it seems like a lot of it

750
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,470
is driven by certain types of agendas.

751
00:27:50,610 --> 00:27:53,250
So I don't know how we make this

752
00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:57,110
one, the one that seems to be one

753
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:59,710
of the most impactful and could have the

754
00:27:59,710 --> 00:28:01,930
greatest effect on us a part of people's

755
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:02,370
priorities.

756
00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:07,930
And it's, Jane, that's a huge question.

757
00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:11,410
I don't know how we can do that.

758
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,650
It's even overwhelming to think about within myself

759
00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:18,910
because a lot of what I've been talking

760
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:21,190
about today has been taking the baby steps

761
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:25,210
approach, but hearing that guy speak, it seems

762
00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:26,730
like baby steps might not be enough at

763
00:28:26,730 --> 00:28:27,170
this point.

764
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:29,930
Well, you're doing your part.

765
00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:31,970
And I think if everybody did their part

766
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:34,290
the way you're doing your part, which really

767
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:36,410
is huge, having one of the very first

768
00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:39,970
vegan cooking shows on television, mainstream TV, I

769
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:41,150
think we'd be further along.

770
00:28:41,470 --> 00:28:42,910
Let me go to a quick caller.

771
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:45,810
We've got Karen in Venice, California.

772
00:28:45,970 --> 00:28:48,170
Your question or thought for Chef Mario Fabri,

773
00:28:48,570 --> 00:28:50,870
whose series is now streaming on Unchained TV.

774
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,720
First of all, I commend you, for all

775
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,700
that you're doing, especially with your upbringing.

776
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,120
I apologise for the noise.

777
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,580
I'm in the car, by the way.

778
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,320
The question to you is, I know that

779
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,740
your way of getting to people, having them

780
00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:16,100
try to go vegan is through your cooking.

781
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,980
What do you do when you're not cooking

782
00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:22,580
and you meet somebody and you're having conversations

783
00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,120
about vegan?

784
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,180
What's your elevator, your 60 second, what do

785
00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:32,500
you talk to them about to try to

786
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,500
help them think in another way?

787
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,720
Very good question.

788
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,660
And I can reveal that Karen is a

789
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:43,640
chef, a spectacular vegan chef, who actually has

790
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,700
her own show on Unchained TV called Cook

791
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,560
Out, which she started during the pandemic where

792
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,680
we were cooking outdoors.

793
00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:53,300
But yes, you're always as well, Karen, carrying

794
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:53,760
the messages.

795
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,080
What's your answer to that?

796
00:29:56,220 --> 00:29:59,300
My quick elevator pitch for someone who's interested

797
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,780
in being vegan is, if I can do

798
00:30:01,780 --> 00:30:02,460
it, you can do it.

799
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,740
I grew up working at an Italian sausage

800
00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:07,200
factory surrounded by meat carcasses, thinking that it

801
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,660
was the most normal thing on the planet.

802
00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:12,320
Not once did I ever view them as

803
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,520
a living, breathing, conscious animal that has a

804
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,380
heart and a soul.

805
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
And take a look at a dog and

806
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,600
a cat and see that inside of every

807
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,500
single other animal.

808
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,260
Is that something you'd want?

809
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,560
Is that a type of harm you'd wanna

810
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,820
have to those animals and pets we call

811
00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:27,600
our loved ones?

812
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:28,880
That's a quick one.

813
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,220
And then another big part of it is,

814
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,040
again, trying a few recipes.

815
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:37,800
Go home, try and make something good.

816
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,420
I'll refer them to the cashew cheese.

817
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,580
I'll refer them to a stuffed shells recipe.

818
00:30:43,740 --> 00:30:45,680
A lot of times 60 seconds turns into

819
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,400
me sending them a link for a recipe.

820
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,440
So I like to start with, if I

821
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,440
could do it, you can do it.

822
00:30:51,620 --> 00:30:54,080
And then here's two or three tools that

823
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,420
you can take with you and actually make

824
00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:56,520
some good food.

825
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:58,440
And a lot of times people are surprised

826
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640
and then I think the other approach is

827
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,700
rather than giving my pitch, it's asking them

828
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:04,220
questions.

829
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760
It's inviting them into the conversation.

830
00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:08,900
A lot of times it's helping people make

831
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,000
the discovery for themselves.

832
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,340
Would you wanna kill an animal for food

833
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:16,100
if you had to?

834
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,380
The answer most definitely for almost everybody is

835
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:22,860
no, unless they're completely closed-minded, then you

836
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:23,660
almost don't have a chance.

837
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,760
But that starter question really opens people up.

838
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Because a lot of times they'll say no,

839
00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:31,040
but it tastes so good.

840
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,520
And that's when I throw in a recipe.

841
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,060
That's when I throw in a food suggestion.

842
00:31:34,420 --> 00:31:37,380
So I'd say, starting with my story, how

843
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,420
I changed and then asking them, if you

844
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,040
didn't have to kill an animal for food,

845
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,240
would you prefer that?

846
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:44,340
And a lot of them will say yes.

847
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:46,840
And then, Karen, you sound like you got

848
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,440
some recipes.

849
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,780
Give them something to eat or if they're

850
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:52,200
local in Los Angeles or wherever you're at,

851
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,760
drop them a place that they can order

852
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,680
some good food from.

853
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680
I like to refer a place called Butcher's

854
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,540
Daughter, a place called Sage, Crossroads Kitchen.

855
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:06,260
Those are a couple of my favourites where

856
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:09,100
no doubt non-vegans will show up, eat

857
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,280
something that'll blow their minds.

858
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,620
And it might be the thing that starts

859
00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:12,280
them on that path.

860
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,820
Yeah, and another one, you're Italian, I assume,

861
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,440
and Tara Punzone has Pura Vita, which is

862
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,580
an Italian restaurant.

863
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:25,280
And she has a similar story.

864
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,720
You guys should get together and have a

865
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,200
chat about this because she grew up in

866
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,580
an Italian family where her parents ran like

867
00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:36,720
a deli kind of restaurant.

868
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:40,300
And she decided at a young age, she

869
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:41,900
wasn't going to eat meat.

870
00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:45,880
And she started kind of creating her own

871
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,800
little place at the table.

872
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,040
She said Sunday dinner was always a big

873
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,880
family affair.

874
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:52,820
And she was starting to make her own

875
00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:55,320
ricotta, vegan ricotta, vegan this, vegan that.

876
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,720
And then she noticed that her other family

877
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,240
members were like, I'll take a little bit

878
00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,540
of that.

879
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,700
I'll take a little bit of that.

880
00:33:00,820 --> 00:33:03,320
And next her part of the table get

881
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,280
bigger and bigger.

882
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:08,480
And now she's got two very, very successful

883
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,400
restaurants here a one in Redondo Beach and

884
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,240
one in West Hollywood.

885
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,300
Her food is mind blowing.

886
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Like, I'm glad that I'm not that close

887
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,480
because it'd be 500.

888
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:22,580
I mean, it's so good.

889
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:24,120
The vegan Italian.

890
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,580
Can you comment a little bit on, it

891
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:30,280
seems like Italian food is very conducive to

892
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,660
vegan recipes.

893
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:36,460
Yeah, I'd say vegan food and Italian food.

894
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:38,240
I mean, it can be a challenge because

895
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,060
you think about a lot of Italian dishes.

896
00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:42,400
It's almost the same version of noodles, meat

897
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,320
and cheese sauce, noodles, meat and cheese and

898
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,540
sauce.

899
00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:45,660
Which one are you going to choose and

900
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:46,740
how are you going to combine them?

901
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,380
But I think like the cheese has come

902
00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:51,820
a very long way.

903
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:55,100
One of my favourite recipes is for stuffed

904
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:55,420
shells.

905
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520
Stuffed shells was my favourite thing in the

906
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,720
world to eat growing up.

907
00:33:59,180 --> 00:34:01,300
And you have those little shell shaped noodles.

908
00:34:01,460 --> 00:34:03,120
You stuff them with cheese, you cover them

909
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,600
with sauce, you bake them in the oven.

910
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:06,660
And a lot of times that is like

911
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:08,620
a ricotta cheese inside of there.

912
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239
And what I've done to transform that and

913
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,120
get the right texture.

914
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,060
And this is tested on my father, who

915
00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:17,060
is my artist critic, my greatest supporter.

916
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,380
He liked the stuffed shells.

917
00:34:19,969 --> 00:34:21,080
And what I do for that is I

918
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,639
make that cashew cheese I mentioned earlier.

919
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,679
I set that aside and then I'll take

920
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,880
some tofu and I'll crumble up that tofu

921
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,460
in a bowl.

922
00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:30,800
And then I'll add in some rosemary, some

923
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,940
thyme, some garlic powder, onion powder, a little

924
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:35,560
bit of salt and crumble that up.

925
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,300
Then you add in the cashew cheese to

926
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:37,500
that.

927
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:38,600
Then you mix all that together.

928
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,360
Now you have this tofu cashew cheese, spiced

929
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,060
up crumble.

930
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:45,020
And then I'll saute some spinach and some

931
00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:47,139
shallots and some garlic on the stove.

932
00:34:47,139 --> 00:34:48,960
And I'll have that all chopped up pretty

933
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,360
finely.

934
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,120
And then I'll throw that in that mixture.

935
00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:52,620
So now we have the cashew cheese, we

936
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:54,900
have the tofu, we have the sauteed spinach,

937
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,380
shallots and onions.

938
00:34:56,380 --> 00:34:59,260
And then that becomes our stuffing for stuffed

939
00:34:59,260 --> 00:34:59,640
shells.

940
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,040
And it's better than, I'm sorry, grandma, my

941
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,940
grandma's stuffed shells.

942
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:09,300
And I think that that to me is

943
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:13,400
like one of those kind of, it unlocked

944
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,940
a little bit of a secret for me

945
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,300
in terms of combining a bunch of different

946
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:18,700
things to make something good.

947
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,360
Still haven't mastered it.

948
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,340
Still really working on like a healthy whole

949
00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:25,840
food plant-based, low oil, low fat without

950
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,760
the additives, vegan meatball, but trying to develop

951
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,540
some good emulsifying agents for that to really

952
00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:33,260
bind it together.

953
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Something I did recently that worked pretty well.

954
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:37,980
It needs some tweaking, but is taking some

955
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:39,660
bread and actually soaking it in plant-based

956
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:43,300
milk and then combining that in with a

957
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,320
bunch of like lentils tomato paste and tonnes

958
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,180
of spices and seasonings and a little bit

959
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:49,200
of a flax egg.

960
00:35:49,740 --> 00:35:51,220
And that kind of binds it all together,

961
00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:52,820
but still developing that.

962
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,220
But yeah, I think it's fascinating.

963
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,140
I think it's exciting.

964
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,700
I think one thing that might be a

965
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,720
big commonality is a lot of people in

966
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,780
Italy grow their own food.

967
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:05,940
If you go to Italy, there are gardens

968
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:07,100
everywhere.

969
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,420
The Amalfi coast is just mountains and on

970
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:11,080
every slope of the mountain, there's a little

971
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,540
inlet and a garden, inlet garden.

972
00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:16,160
So they like to grow their own tomatoes.

973
00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:17,680
My grandpa growing up, he had the meat

974
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,200
factory, but he also had tomatoes and cucumbers

975
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,000
in his garden at all times.

976
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,480
So I think that they have that salt

977
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,820
of the earth relationship to their food and

978
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:29,620
vegetables are very sacred in that growing process.

979
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:31,660
So they're very familiar with it.

980
00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:33,120
They're very excited about it.

981
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,420
And once you teach an Italian that it

982
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:37,480
can be better for the environment, it's something

983
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,980
that they can relate to because they have

984
00:36:39,980 --> 00:36:41,600
such a strong relationship with the earth.

985
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,580
Because maybe their parents, their grandparents grew the

986
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:46,960
food that they ate growing up.

987
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,380
So I think that that might be one

988
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:48,640
thing.

989
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:52,040
I think this is a perfect time for

990
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,260
you to do your demonstration.

991
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,140
I was so excited when you said you

992
00:36:55,140 --> 00:36:57,480
were willing to do a cooking demo live

993
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,360
here on Voice America Radio and on Shane

994
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,740
TV.

995
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:01,440
Check it out.

996
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Awesome.

997
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,540
So we're switching it up.

998
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,320
It's not quite a cooking demo, but that's

999
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,980
the perfect transition because this is a how

1000
00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:09,140
to grow your own food demonstration.

1001
00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:11,860
So I'm gonna show you how easy it

1002
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:14,960
is to grow sprouts at home.

1003
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,820
So sprouts, so packed with nutrition.

1004
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,820
I'm not a doctor, but I talked to

1005
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:23,260
some doctors and something like one broccoli sprout

1006
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:25,760
seed has as much nutrition as an entire

1007
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,020
head of broccoli.

1008
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:30,380
And sprouts, I'll show you some right here.

1009
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:31,920
We've got some broccoli sprouts right here.

1010
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,180
This is where they start some seeds.

1011
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,100
So these are some broccoli sprouting seeds.

1012
00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:38,740
You could buy these from the internet.

1013
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,600
You could probably buy them locally.

1014
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,860
I got them from a company called The

1015
00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:43,580
Sprouting Company.

1016
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:45,280
They have really cool kits to help you

1017
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,700
sprout, but these are the seeds and they

1018
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:52,220
require no soil and no sunlight to grow.

1019
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,180
And it takes about a week and I'll

1020
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:55,380
show you how easy it is.

1021
00:37:55,780 --> 00:38:01,180
So this is a little kit, okay, that

1022
00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:01,860
you can get.

1023
00:38:02,740 --> 00:38:06,060
And really all you need is a jar.

1024
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:07,640
This is a fancy jar.

1025
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,360
I'll show you the other option.

1026
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,440
You could also do this in a Mason

1027
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,840
jar or a leftover air one jar if

1028
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,340
you're bougie.

1029
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,060
This is a jar and it has a

1030
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:18,900
little filtered lid.

1031
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,840
You're just gonna need that, some seeds and

1032
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,900
some water.

1033
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Just literally three things, seeds, jar, water.

1034
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:31,520
This is what you do.

1035
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,020
We'll do it in my fancy one because

1036
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,000
I'm actually gonna run these.

1037
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:38,360
Take the lid off.

1038
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,240
And then we're gonna add about two tablespoons

1039
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:53,290
of broccoli seeds to our jar, one, two

1040
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:53,750
tablespoons.

1041
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,450
And then we're gonna fill this with water.

1042
00:38:59,450 --> 00:39:01,030
I'll get myself in the picture a little

1043
00:39:01,030 --> 00:39:01,470
bit more.

1044
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:07,670
Fill it with some water, just enough to

1045
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:08,430
cover them all up.

1046
00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:12,110
Then we'll pop the lid back on.

1047
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,120
And then the first thing you need to

1048
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,200
do is you wanna let them soak for

1049
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,640
about eight hours.

1050
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:25,520
So actually, let's put that aside.

1051
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,380
So you let these soak for about eight

1052
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:29,600
hours and the seeds are just gonna absorb

1053
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,060
some water.

1054
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:31,720
So you could just pour the seeds, let

1055
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,920
them soak and let that go overnight, about

1056
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,600
eight hours.

1057
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,180
And then after you've let them soak for

1058
00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:40,800
those first eight hours, this is the second

1059
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,180
step.

1060
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:42,720
Step one, you soak.

1061
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,500
Step two, you're gonna be rinsing them twice

1062
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:45,800
a day.

1063
00:39:45,940 --> 00:39:46,800
Here's how you rinse them.

1064
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,500
You pour out the water.

1065
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:51,320
You could do this over your sink.

1066
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:52,800
I don't got a sink back behind me

1067
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,820
so we're just gonna do it here.

1068
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,220
So you pour out the water, you pour

1069
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:58,760
in some new water.

1070
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,180
And again, this has a little filter top

1071
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:03,600
so it's easy to pour in the water.

1072
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,380
And you could do this in a Mason

1073
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:07,300
jar if you don't have the fancy kit.

1074
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,640
So it's really, really inexpensive to do.

1075
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,580
So now this is the rinsing phase.

1076
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,240
Like I said, let's pretend that these have

1077
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,680
been soaking for about eight hours.

1078
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,420
And now we're rinsing them.

1079
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Give it a little shake, shake.

1080
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,440
If Jane was here, we'd be doing some

1081
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,780
version of the blender dance, the sprout shaking

1082
00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:26,220
dance.

1083
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Give them a little shake, little shake, shake.

1084
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,900
And then pour that water out.

1085
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,580
Okay, that was our rinse.

1086
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:36,120
Again, we're pretending this is tomorrow morning after

1087
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,820
they've been soaking.

1088
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,580
And then now, again, kind of shake them

1089
00:40:40,580 --> 00:40:40,840
up.

1090
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,100
And we're just gonna let them stay leaning

1091
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,600
like that.

1092
00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:48,920
And this is just gonna let any extra

1093
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,600
water fall out of it.

1094
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:52,260
And again, if you have a Mason jar,

1095
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,980
you can literally just do it in a

1096
00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:59,960
bowl like that and the water's gonna lay

1097
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:00,260
out.

1098
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,160
So that was that process.

1099
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:08,540
And then that was rinse number one of

1100
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:10,200
the day, pretend it's the morning.

1101
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:11,840
And then you just rinse them twice a

1102
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:11,960
day.

1103
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,420
So you rinse them when you wake up

1104
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:15,180
and you rinse them when you go to

1105
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:15,440
sleep.

1106
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,160
And the rinsing is fill it with water,

1107
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,120
dump out the water, leave it.

1108
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Twice a day.

1109
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,740
And after about three days, you're gonna see

1110
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:26,120
little like sprouts.

1111
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,380
You know, you go to the grocery store,

1112
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:28,900
they're a gazillion dollars.

1113
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,320
They're these little long, little green, about three

1114
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,240
inch little strips.

1115
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,280
And they'll start to grow after one day.

1116
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,940
After two days, they'll get a little bit

1117
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:39,380
longer.

1118
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:40,680
Three days, they're longer.

1119
00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:44,320
And after like three days, they're edible.

1120
00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:48,220
So literally two tablespoons of seeds, a jar

1121
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:51,560
and some water, soak them once, rinse them

1122
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,140
twice a day every day after that.

1123
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,380
Don't need soil, don't need sunlight.

1124
00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:58,280
You could leave them in a cabinet and

1125
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,680
they'll be growing great.

1126
00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:04,220
And after they're done growing, these two tablespoons

1127
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:07,340
of seeds are gonna be like a massive

1128
00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:09,860
like bowl of sprouts.

1129
00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:12,300
This whole thing is gonna be filled up

1130
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:13,400
with sprouts.

1131
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:14,660
And I've been doing this for the past

1132
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:15,300
couple of weeks.

1133
00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:18,420
And it is just like such a rewarding

1134
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:19,300
process.

1135
00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:21,960
And you can do it with broccolis.

1136
00:42:22,220 --> 00:42:24,060
You could do it with, we got mung

1137
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:25,260
bean seeds right here.

1138
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,900
I got green peas seeds.

1139
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:29,640
They all have different health benefits.

1140
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,120
They all have different growing times.

1141
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,260
These ones, green peas, you could harvest these

1142
00:42:35,260 --> 00:42:36,100
in two days.

1143
00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:40,520
Two tablespoons of green peas, massive multiple salads

1144
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,500
in just two days with just water.

1145
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:45,800
So such an easy thing to do.

1146
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,500
The doctors I've talked to will preach the

1147
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:49,140
health benefits.

1148
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:52,440
I'm not going to, because they're talking about

1149
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,860
things like sulforaphane and all these complex elements

1150
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:58,140
of the seed that I don't fully understand,

1151
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,580
but they've done the research.

1152
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:00,400
I trust them.

1153
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,640
I trust you guys to do your own

1154
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:01,980
research.

1155
00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:02,920
Don't take it from me.

1156
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,880
I'm just a guy who cooks, who loves

1157
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,400
to learn.

1158
00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,500
But sprouts, so healthy for you.

1159
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:10,800
So easy to grow.

1160
00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:13,840
Even better for the environment when you do

1161
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,020
it at home, because it's so much easier

1162
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:18,520
for them to just send you a bag

1163
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,100
of seeds.

1164
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,220
Like one pound of seeds is gonna be

1165
00:43:21,220 --> 00:43:23,220
10 pounds of broccoli sprouts.

1166
00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:28,040
This bag of seeds, so easy to ship,

1167
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,560
so easy to get to me.

1168
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,100
But if I was buying this from the

1169
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,080
grocery store, this would fill up the entire

1170
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
screen right here once it's fully grown.

1171
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,480
And then it's all in its own individually

1172
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,980
wrapped plastic containers.

1173
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,380
So it's like a 10th of the plastic,

1174
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:45,060
a 10th of the shipping cost, and you're

1175
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:45,880
doing it at home.

1176
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,940
Can you tell me the name of the

1177
00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:49,800
company to order these products?

1178
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,900
Yeah, so this company is The Sprouting Company.

1179
00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:56,540
They are amazing, organic.

1180
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:58,640
They have these kits that are so easy

1181
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,620
to do yourself.

1182
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,540
They have all the instructions.

1183
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,760
It is absolutely fabulously designed.

1184
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,360
And this is something that I actually learned

1185
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,020
about recently.

1186
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:09,540
Hopefully we can get it up on your

1187
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:10,560
channel in a little bit.

1188
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,540
I'm working on a project.

1189
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840
But I have a meeting actually tonight with

1190
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,240
the guy who created this company.

1191
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,220
His name's Doug Evans.

1192
00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:21,660
He's raw vegan for 20 years, and he

1193
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:23,580
did like eating sprouts for 30 days.

1194
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,960
This guy is the sprouting king.

1195
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,600
And I'm going to his place later today,

1196
00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:30,420
and he's gonna give me a whole education

1197
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,580
on sprouting and give me the whole lowdown.

1198
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,200
So I'm so excited to learn more and

1199
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,220
dive more into this.

1200
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,320
What is the name?

1201
00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,740
People wanna know, what is the name of

1202
00:44:38,740 --> 00:44:41,180
that machine that you're, like if they were

1203
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:42,240
to order that machine?

1204
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,520
This is uniquely designed by The Sprouting Company.

1205
00:44:46,060 --> 00:44:47,840
And it looks like a machine, but really

1206
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,600
all it is, is a jar with a

1207
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,780
strainer on the end of it.

1208
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:55,000
And then like a leaning container.

1209
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,460
And again, if you're like just trying to

1210
00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:03,320
do this at home, this mechanism is the

1211
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,040
same thing as using a bowl and a

1212
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Mason jar with a mesh screen.

1213
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:09,940
And these mesh screens you could get online

1214
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:11,300
for pretty cheaply.

1215
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:13,140
So this is a Mason jar that was

1216
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:15,060
just leftover from soup I got at Airborne.

1217
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:17,840
So this- Well, keep talking for a

1218
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,000
second.

1219
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,000
I wanna bring you something that I do.

1220
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:21,740
And yeah.

1221
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,120
Love it.

1222
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,040
So this mechanism is very similar to this.

1223
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,260
This is like, you know, intro, you just

1224
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:30,700
got what you got around your house.

1225
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,380
This is like, I want this to look

1226
00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:35,400
nice in my kitchen.

1227
00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:36,880
And I'm obsessed with this.

1228
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,120
You know, this is the level up.

1229
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,820
And what's nice about them, The Sprouting Company,

1230
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,620
is they actually have seeds that come in

1231
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:46,100
their packages or organic seeds and they have

1232
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,240
tonnes of different varieties.

1233
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,660
The instructions come in the box.

1234
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:52,000
So it's like so easy, you know.

1235
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,640
And for someone, if you think, you know,

1236
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,460
if you think you're a plant killer, you

1237
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:58,180
know, if you try to kill your plants

1238
00:45:58,180 --> 00:46:00,180
and you kill them, this will give you

1239
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:02,640
a green thumb confidence to do it yourself.

1240
00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:07,080
Okay, so I have a cat and she

1241
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,100
loves grass.

1242
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,200
So I have two of these that I

1243
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,940
bought online and I didn't think it was

1244
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:13,560
gonna grow.

1245
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,660
I thought, I'm gonna get this, it's gonna

1246
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:17,800
be a waste of money, but I'm gonna

1247
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,880
do it because I didn't like the plastic

1248
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,600
that the pre-bought came in.

1249
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,340
So sure enough, this one is reaching sort

1250
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:28,480
of the end and then I compost and

1251
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,960
here's the new one and it works great.

1252
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,840
I couldn't believe it, it's like a miracle.

1253
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,340
When you see things growing before your eyes,

1254
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:40,560
it's really powerful because we live in this

1255
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,720
process world where I grew up in Midtown

1256
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,760
Manhattan and I never touched, you know, I

1257
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,580
never grown anything, but the fact that I

1258
00:46:48,580 --> 00:46:50,420
did this makes me open to what you're

1259
00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:53,260
doing because I could actually think maybe it

1260
00:46:53,260 --> 00:46:53,760
could happen.

1261
00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:55,980
So I have a couple of quick questions.

1262
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,940
One is, what's your favourite?

1263
00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:01,260
Is it you eat it totally raw?

1264
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,240
And do you eat the whole thing?

1265
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,580
Like, for example, this is grass.

1266
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,220
I mean, you know, if I were to

1267
00:47:09,220 --> 00:47:11,580
eat grass, which I'm not, you see what

1268
00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:11,940
I'm saying?

1269
00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:15,100
I'm trying to understand like once you grow

1270
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,460
this stuff and I also see a bunch

1271
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:20,020
of greens behind you and I'm wondering if

1272
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:21,740
that connects to what you were doing.

1273
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:24,220
No, these are just plants.

1274
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:25,440
No, on the table.

1275
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:26,380
Oh.

1276
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,180
On the table, there looks like a, in

1277
00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:29,880
the back there.

1278
00:47:30,780 --> 00:47:33,700
Oh, no, these are tomatoes, onions and then

1279
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:34,880
this is just a bunch of plants over

1280
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,060
here.

1281
00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:37,080
I don't have any fish ones with me

1282
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,700
right here because I'm going out of town,

1283
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,400
but yeah.

1284
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,420
So if you were to buy your computers

1285
00:47:43,420 --> 00:47:45,180
or whatever it is, just Google like sprouts.

1286
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:47,480
Like, you know, I'm sure you've had them.

1287
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:48,820
They put them on avocado toast.

1288
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Yeah, yeah.

1289
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:53,500
But they are so good just as a

1290
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:57,300
replacement for whatever main vegetable you're using in

1291
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:57,700
a salad.

1292
00:47:57,820 --> 00:47:59,340
So if you're using spinach, if you're using

1293
00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:01,600
kale, if you're using lettuce, just replace it

1294
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,060
with sprouts.

1295
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,740
Also so good on like a deli-style

1296
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:05,660
sandwich, you know.

1297
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:08,540
I love Unreal Deli.

1298
00:48:08,620 --> 00:48:09,420
I don't know if you've heard of them.

1299
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:09,860
Yes.

1300
00:48:09,860 --> 00:48:12,760
But I love Unreal Deli on a sandwich.

1301
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,020
You know, you get some, you know, you

1302
00:48:15,020 --> 00:48:16,380
smear some mayonnaise on there.

1303
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,800
You get some tomatoes, maybe some pickles.

1304
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Then you plop a handful of sprouts on

1305
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,540
there and that's absolutely delicious.

1306
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,220
You know, put it on your toast in

1307
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:24,680
the morning.

1308
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,520
How long does it last before it goes

1309
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:27,840
bad?

1310
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,840
How long does it last before it goes

1311
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,160
bad?

1312
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,940
It's a pretty quick thing.

1313
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,480
So you do gotta eat them like within

1314
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,600
three to five days after they're done growing.

1315
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,980
So like, if you wanna lessen your load,

1316
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,480
like, and I wish, I'm bummed I don't

1317
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,880
have any finished ones here, but you could

1318
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,020
just do like one tablespoon.

1319
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,960
And then like, for me, like I just

1320
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,800
grew some, you know, I finished them like

1321
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:49,480
two days ago.

1322
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:51,300
I just took them out of the jar

1323
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:52,720
and threw them in the salad and like,

1324
00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:55,440
boom, super healthy, ready to go meal.

1325
00:48:55,860 --> 00:48:57,600
I eat them like before they have a

1326
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,180
chance to go bad if I'm being smart

1327
00:48:59,180 --> 00:48:59,820
about it.

1328
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:02,540
But they, yeah, they last about like three

1329
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:03,560
max five days.

1330
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,240
Well, first of all, I love this.

1331
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,180
One reason is that I've always toyed with

1332
00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:13,480
having a garden, but the dirt, the, you

1333
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,880
know, all of that, it seems very overwhelming

1334
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,360
to me.

1335
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,160
And I don't know if I would do

1336
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,380
all the purchasing and then not follow up.

1337
00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:23,380
So I've never done it, but this seems

1338
00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:24,100
very doable.

1339
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:26,580
And I have Mason jars coming out of

1340
00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:26,980
my ears.

1341
00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:28,160
I got so many Mason jars.

1342
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,720
So I could see myself just ordering the

1343
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:34,300
actual peas, which I, somehow they appeal to

1344
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:35,500
me a little more than the broccoli, but

1345
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:36,200
I don't know.

1346
00:49:37,420 --> 00:49:39,240
It's only two broccoli or peas?

1347
00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:44,940
No, broccoli, peas, mung beans, radishes, like pretty

1348
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:45,500
much anything.

1349
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,840
So these are just normal seeds that would

1350
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,940
grow into full plants.

1351
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:50,700
Like this is kind of like that initial

1352
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:53,640
growth phase for almost all vegetables.

1353
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:57,080
You're just eating it before it actually grows

1354
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,760
out of soil.

1355
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880
So this is the same seed that I

1356
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,300
would put in the soil and grow broccoli

1357
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:02,740
from.

1358
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,080
But instead of putting in soil, we're putting

1359
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,460
in water and we're just sprouting it.

1360
00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:09,520
It's like, it's just a different process, but

1361
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,920
you can do it with almost any vegetable

1362
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,280
seed.

1363
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:13,180
You can do it with lentils.

1364
00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:16,060
You know, it's kind of infinite.

1365
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,000
Well, let me say, we only have a

1366
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,580
couple of minutes.

1367
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,400
I've been so excited about A, having you

1368
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,000
and your 22 episodes streaming on Unchained TV.

1369
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,460
They are super fun.

1370
00:50:27,780 --> 00:50:30,000
And I think more than anything, it shows

1371
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,120
that eating plant-based is not a sacrifice.

1372
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,640
It's an adventure.

1373
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,360
And I just want to play one quick

1374
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,880
clip because you had the famous Lauren Toyota

1375
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:47,080
on and she is really hot for food,

1376
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:48,520
is hot show.

1377
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:50,540
So let's just check that out really quickly.

1378
00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:52,840
And then we're going to wrap it up.

1379
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,940
We've got our cauliflower right here.

1380
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,420
Just can you talk me through what we're

1381
00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:55,560
going to do?

1382
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,820
Yeah, I mean, you don't need to be

1383
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:58,900
too intimidated, but you don't just want to

1384
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:00,420
start hacking into the stem.

1385
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,140
You want to be slightly, you know, nice

1386
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:02,280
and thin.

1387
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Okay, yeah.

1388
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,180
So you just cut off the stem.

1389
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,260
Okay, I'm starting the stem.

1390
00:51:07,340 --> 00:51:08,580
You want to take your knife and kind

1391
00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:09,800
of go in at the base of the

1392
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,200
stem.

1393
00:51:10,660 --> 00:51:10,920
Okay.

1394
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,180
And then you get like, this is like

1395
00:51:13,180 --> 00:51:13,860
a nice fork.

1396
00:51:14,220 --> 00:51:15,860
You can use all purpose flour works, but

1397
00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:18,200
we've got rice flour, garlic powder, and onion

1398
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,560
powder.

1399
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:21,020
We're essentially making like a savoury pancake batter

1400
00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:21,340
here.

1401
00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:23,120
Why'd you get into vegan food?

1402
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,920
Well, I had spent a few years like

1403
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
going back and forth from being vegetarian to

1404
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,960
being an omnivore.

1405
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,240
I love food.

1406
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,820
I always cared about what I was eating,

1407
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,720
wanted to be healthy, wanted to like eat

1408
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:34,740
the right things.

1409
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,880
And so I knew I had to make

1410
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,180
a change.

1411
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,400
I watched a documentary called Food Inc.

1412
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:39,540
Okay, I watched that.

1413
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:41,300
Yeah, that's kind of what got it going

1414
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:41,800
in my mind.

1415
00:51:41,860 --> 00:51:43,000
Like I need to make a change.

1416
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,460
Like I don't want to contribute to this

1417
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:46,960
corrupt food system and started experimenting.

1418
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:48,660
And that's, I really started hot for food

1419
00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:50,540
even before I went vegan.

1420
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:52,220
There you go.

1421
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,280
Somebody who's a top vegan right now had

1422
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,240
really, again, not been vegan her whole life.

1423
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,080
Very few people.

1424
00:52:00,180 --> 00:52:01,820
I know a couple of born vegans, but

1425
00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:02,760
they're rare.

1426
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:04,080
Hopefully not forever.

1427
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,380
Final thoughts for this segment.

1428
00:52:07,540 --> 00:52:08,720
We would love to have you back.

1429
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,640
You need to have your own show where

1430
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,160
you talk live about all these fascinating things

1431
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,800
on top of your cooking show.

1432
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:17,340
Thank you.

1433
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,400
Really quick, I found some.

1434
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,120
So I have some finished mung bean sprouts.

1435
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:21,780
These are what they're going to look like.

1436
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,280
They just look like little sprouts.

1437
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:23,920
You sprinkle them on a salad.

1438
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,320
The broccoli ones are a little more green.

1439
00:52:25,380 --> 00:52:27,000
The radish ones are red, but I just

1440
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,440
want to show you that.

1441
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,580
Do you have to wash them again after

1442
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:30,240
they sprout?

1443
00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:32,000
Oh yeah, you just rinse them.

1444
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,500
You give them that final rinse and then

1445
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:34,780
you throw them in a container and put

1446
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:35,300
them in your fridge.

1447
00:52:35,580 --> 00:52:36,100
Got it.

1448
00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:36,820
Yep.

1449
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:38,320
Final thoughts, my dear.

1450
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,540
Again, we urge everybody, watch.

1451
00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:44,200
Go to watch.unshanetv.com.

1452
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:48,200
Chef Mario has an entire category of many,

1453
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,140
many shows, hopefully with more to come, but

1454
00:52:50,140 --> 00:52:50,760
they're incredible.

1455
00:52:51,620 --> 00:52:52,020
Yes.

1456
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:54,220
Thank you so much for having me.

1457
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:55,640
So excited to have the show on there.

1458
00:52:55,820 --> 00:52:57,360
Just shout out a couple of guests and

1459
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,460
a couple of things you could learn.

1460
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,000
I do vegan bodybuilding with Brian Turner.

1461
00:53:02,140 --> 00:53:04,800
This guy is absolutely ripped out of his

1462
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,200
mind.

1463
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,860
He talks about how you can get protein

1464
00:53:06,860 --> 00:53:07,520
as a vegan.

1465
00:53:07,660 --> 00:53:08,560
He's a big YouTuber.

1466
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:09,720
He's done competitions.

1467
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,000
He teaches me about some high protein recipes.

1468
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,120
Then we also have Cruella, these world famous

1469
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,680
DJs who say they try and eat healthier

1470
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,100
when they're on tour because it gives them

1471
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:20,740
more energy.

1472
00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:23,240
They like Indian food, so I teach them

1473
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,660
an Indian mango kulfi and then they teach

1474
00:53:26,660 --> 00:53:30,340
me an incredible salad recipe and it just

1475
00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:32,840
kind of stems and grows and expands from

1476
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,040
there.

1477
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,380
So I've had some really cool guests.

1478
00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:35,960
We talk about the basics.

1479
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,000
We talk about health.

1480
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,420
We talk about street food.

1481
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,260
So it's just kind of non-vegans exploration

1482
00:53:41,260 --> 00:53:42,900
into vegan food and then the show kind

1483
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:44,100
of takes a shift, you'll see.

1484
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,180
I go from being the sausage guy learning

1485
00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:50,480
from the vegan experts to now I am

1486
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,960
the experienced vegan teaching people like Mr. Wonderful

1487
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,500
about vegan food.

1488
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,460
So you'll see me go and make that

1489
00:53:58,460 --> 00:54:01,420
transformation in real time from someone who thought

1490
00:54:01,420 --> 00:54:03,080
they were gonna work at a sausage factory

1491
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:06,640
to someone who's well-trained, enthusiastic and excited

1492
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,300
to teach people about everything I learned.

1493
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:11,180
And maybe starting your own vegan sausage factory.

1494
00:54:11,620 --> 00:54:15,920
I see an entrepreneur with big things to

1495
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,260
come.

1496
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:18,920
And I love Shark Tank cause they support

1497
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,040
a lot of vegan products.

1498
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,340
Mark Cuban may be vegan-ish because he

1499
00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:30,180
invested in Jenny Goldfarb's vegan pastrami company, Mrs.

1500
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,560
Goldfarb's Real Deli.

1501
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,620
You mentioned that you love her food.

1502
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:34,560
I love it too.

1503
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,980
So thank you so much for being part

1504
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:39,340
of the Unchained TV team.

1505
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,880
We're really honoured to have you.

1506
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:45,600
You're doing incredible, incredible work and really making

1507
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,520
veganism the fun, fun experience that it is.

1508
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,980
So I would urge everybody, please download Unchained

1509
00:54:51,980 --> 00:54:54,020
TV, the world's only vegan streaming network.

1510
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:56,760
We're available for free on any cell phone,

1511
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,020
on any Samsung smart TV, on any TV

1512
00:55:00,620 --> 00:55:03,480
with Amazon Fire Stick Roku device or Apple

1513
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,120
TV device.

1514
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:06,260
And it's so easy, it's fun.

1515
00:55:06,660 --> 00:55:08,860
We're mostly volunteer run.

1516
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,140
Check it out.

1517
00:55:10,420 --> 00:55:13,680
You just can go to watch.unchainedtv.com

1518
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,400
on your computer, or if that's too much,

1519
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,440
just go to unchainedtv.com.

1520
00:55:18,620 --> 00:55:20,160
There's a lot of ways to get to

1521
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,520
us and we're all about just saving the

1522
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,340
planet, saving the animals, saving your health.

1523
00:55:26,620 --> 00:55:29,400
See you next time here on Unchained TV.

1524
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,060
Thank you, Chef Mario.

1525
00:55:31,980 --> 00:55:32,680
Thank you.