UnchainedTV: Stop The Monkey Business!

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And we have got breaking news for you.

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We can tell you that outraged citizens, frightened

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citizens in Georgia have united to stop a

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plan that would put America's largest laboratory monkey

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breeding facility in the small town of Bainbridge,

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Georgia, 233 miles south of Atlanta.

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The residents have filed a lawsuit in an

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attempt to stop this highly controversial plan to

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put 30,000 monkeys, twice the human population

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of the town, in their village.

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PETA is on the ground supporting the residents.

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They argue the plan should be invalidated because

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local officials approved the proposal during an illegally

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assembled meeting violating violating Georgia's Open Meetings Act.

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Basically, these citizens, and you're going to hear

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from one in a second, say this was

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being done behind their backs, and they are

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furious over the impact of caged monkeys on

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their property values, their safety, and so much

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more.

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So I want to go straight out to

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Christina Martin.

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Christina, you are one of the leaders in

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the fight to stop this.

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Why did you decide to get involved?

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Well, I really did feel like I had

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a choice.

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I mean, I moved back to my hometown

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to build a family, you know, be with

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my family, my elderly grandparents that are no

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longer with us, but to just, you know,

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start my life as an adult.

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And, you know, I've been here for four

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and a half years, and this is just,

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this is not at all anything I ever

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would have expected to happen.

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I mean, we've done so much in our

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downtown development, you know, bringing industry, good industry,

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to the county, and just building downtown, and

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this is just kind of a kick in

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the head.

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You know, I mean, our local officials have

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basically just put a huge dark cloud over

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everything that everyone in the town has worked

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so hard to build.

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What they're planning here in Bainbridge is absolutely

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unprecedented in this country.

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They're planning to ultimately confine 30,000 monkeys

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on any given day and would be generating

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more than 400,000 gallons of wastewater a

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These are all monkeys who would be into

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the pipeline to be into laboratories across the

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country where they'll be force-fed chemicals, addicted

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to drugs like cocaine.

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They'll have their skulls drilled into their skulls,

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and ultimately they'd all be killed.

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And it's no wonder that the citizens of

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Bainbridge want nothing to do with this, and

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it's clear that what the company is trying

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to do in Bainbridge is not try to

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improve human health or bring quality jobs to

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Bainbridge.

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All they care about is making as much

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money as they can while exploiting an endangered

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species of monkeys.

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So that's why Pete is joining with the

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citizens of Bainbridge to fight this facility so

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that we do not create just this enormous

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factory farm of monkeys right here in the

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U.S. that are all destined for these

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invasive, traumatic, and deadly experiments.

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Now this has been getting a lot of

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coverage, and that's great because sometimes animal rights

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issues do not get coverage.

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And that's one of the reasons we started

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Unchained TV, because it's outrageous that things happen

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that affect people and animals and the mainstream

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media ignores it.

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But they are not ignoring this issue.

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So I want to play just one of

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the local news reports, and then we're discuss

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on the other side.

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The courtroom was full of residents wearing t

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-shirts that read, Stop the Monkey Farm, during

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a hearing on Safer Human Medicine's motion to

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join in on this civil case.

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Residents are suing the city of Bainbridge, Decatur

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County, the Decatur County Board of Education, and

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the Board of Assessors for planning to build

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a monkey facility.

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According to the lawsuit, the government officials voted

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to approve the facility while violating part of

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Georgia's Open Meetings Act.

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During the hearing Tuesday morning, both parties shared

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their arguments.

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The attorney representing Bainbridge residents, Rebecca Davis, shared

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why the court should not grant the motion

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to intervene.

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I do not believe that the court should

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grant the motion to intervene.

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So bring us up to date, Amy.

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Where exactly is this case?

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It's something obviously that the residents of Bainbridge

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do not want.

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They packed hearings about this saying it was

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done behind their backs.

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Where does it stand now?

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So yes, so this lawsuit was filed by

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a group of Bainbridge citizens, and it's filed

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against the city and other agencies because they

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failed to do, as you mentioned, what's required

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of them by the Georgia Open Meetings Act

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when they voted to approve this disastrous plan.

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And right now, the most recent thing that

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happened a couple weeks ago was a hearing

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in the case because the company is trying

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to wiggle its way and intervene in the

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case and try to be relevant in the

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case when really it's about the citizens and

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the city and these agencies' role in not

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representing their true interests.

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And all they did was roll out the

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red carpet for this company.

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And what the citizens are demanding is saying,

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your words are not enough.

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We need to see action.

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We need our elected officials to admit their

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mistakes and take action to undo them.

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So while this is in the courts, meanwhile,

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the company hasn't been able to build any

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of this facility, and we are just optimistic

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that they're going to see that this is

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not forward thinking.

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This is not in the best interest of

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anyone, and they need to abandon this plan

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and invest in real meaningful science that's not

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using animal models.

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Well, let me ask you, Christina, you sent

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me this photo of people lined up outside

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one of the hearings on this issue, and

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it's not just a couple of people.

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It's a lot of people who packed these

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hearings.

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What is the general reaction in the town

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of Bainbridge, which again is about 230 miles

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south of Atlanta, a close-knit community, and

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all of a sudden this was presented to

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them as a fait accompli.

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How has the town itself reacted?

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Oh, you're muted.

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Sorry.

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First of all, let me just say not

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only are we just a little bit south

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of Atlanta, we're only about 38 miles north

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of Tallahassee, and our Flint River, which is

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another one of our attractions, flows straight into

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the Gulf.

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So this is not only a fight for

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the town, our river, the beautification, wildlife.

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This also affects the panhandle of the Gulf

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Coast.

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So I just want to throw that out

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because that's a huge factor in all of

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this as well.

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But the photos that you shared- Because

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you're talking about pollution.

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You're talking about pollution.

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Tell me about that.

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Well, I mean, Amy can give you more

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specifics on the scientific part, I guess, but

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based on research, we're looking at over 400

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,000 gallons of waste to come from this

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facility.

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And I mean, based on the individuals that

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started Safer Human Medicine, I don't foresee them

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following protocol to transport waste.

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And our river is literally, you might as

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well say across the street, you know, from

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the rivers across the street from where they

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want to build the facility.

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So I mean, that, you know, it's just,

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it's not rocket science to come to that

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conclusion.

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But Jane, I wanted to say those photos

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that you saw, the one of the citizens

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outside, you can't really see all of the

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people.

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That's outside of our local county commissioner's building.

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That was a county commission meeting, one of

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the first ones.

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And you cannot tell, the people were around

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the corner.

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We had to close off because the lobby

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was full, the building was full.

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People just stood outside and people were like

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passing the word from the lobby outside to

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people and kind of, you know, going down

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the line to inform people.

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That was just one of the county commission

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meetings.

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The other photo, that one, yes, that was

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one of the very first city council meetings.

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And again, this room is on the second

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floor.

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So outside of there, the lobby area was

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full, down the stairs, outside.

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I mean, the meetings have been so full,

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people can't get in.

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They're outraged.

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People are outraged.

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You know, if this is a farming community,

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you know, people are really concerned about their

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livelihoods, their property values.

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You know, I mean, you know, in my

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bio, it says that we have family land

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of over 100 years.

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And there's people that have land in their

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family longer.

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And, you know, they've farmed for decades and

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decades.

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You know, their corporate contracts are not going

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to continue if there's a risk of disease

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affecting the crop.

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All right.

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Let me say that we have a whole

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bunch of callers lining up.

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This has hit a nerve.

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We're going to run through them.

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Sarah in Lufkin, Texas, your question or thought?

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Sarah, I hear.

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Yes.

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Oh, sorry about that.

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Yes.

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My question is, I hear a lot of

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talk about the residents being really concerned and

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outraged about this big, massive monkey facility, because

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it's going to affect their health, it's going

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to affect their property value.

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But is there anything being done to educate

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the residents about why they should be mad,

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like about the animal welfare aspect?

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Like, are they being taught about the industry

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and how they can fight against it by

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buying cruelty-free products?

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You know, that kind of education.

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Well, let's go to Amy Meyer, because PETA

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is on the ground there helping out.

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Yes.

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So myself and one of my colleagues have

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been to Bainbridge several times.

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We've been meeting with residents there constantly.

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And these are smart, compassionate people.

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They understand the ethical issue, too.

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I've never met so many people who learned

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so quickly what is at stake here for

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the animals themselves.

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They absolutely care deeply about the animals themselves.

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And when they watched the footage of what

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happened at InVigo's beagle breeding facility, when one

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of these men trying to start the monkey

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factory farm was there, they have been appalled.

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And they have no trust that he's going

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to do any better with many more times

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monkeys in their town.

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They're absolutely concerned about the animals themselves.

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But it's also, you know, a more direct

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impact to them than it is to other

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people who care about the animals as well,

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because it is impacting them directly if this

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comes to their community.

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But they absolutely have learned so much, are

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so well educated on the topic and on

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the ethical issue, and have really become amazing

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advocates for these monkeys trapped in laboratories across

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the country.

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And before we go to the next caller,

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I want to point out that we have

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a GoFundMe.

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We've posted it in the comments section.

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If you're watching now, you could hopefully copy

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it or just copy and paste it off

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of Facebook.

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We're on all platforms.

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So please help them donate, because PETA's fighting

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it, but they also have a local GoFundMe.

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All right, next caller, Tiffany in Los Angeles,

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your question or thought for our panel on

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stop monkey breeding in Georgia.

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Yes, good afternoon, Jane.

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And thank you, PETA and all who are

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taking this on.

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And I know I was reading something too,

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that one of the CEOs or something was

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related to the Beagle facility that was shut

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down, and that he's faced a lot of

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legal problems.

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But I wanted to ask, what, how, how

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did you discover this, that this was going

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on in the dark?

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Because I'm just thinking they could be planning

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this in any of our cities, and we

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may find out too late.

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How, how are you able to find out

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what was going on?

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Great question.

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Who wants to take it?

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Amy, go.

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Oh, sure.

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And Christina, please chime in.

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If you want to add, PETA actually was

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alerted by some of the local residents who

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discovered this was happening.

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And unfortunately, by the time we learned the

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city had already started steam rolling.

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So it really is hard to know.

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And they intentionally make it hard to know.

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When they were presenting this to the city,

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they called this monkey factory farm operation Project

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Liberty.

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That sounds like a wonderful thing.

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If you just see on paper, they're gonna

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that the city is going to see something

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about a Project Liberty doesn't sound bad.

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But of course, it is.

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And so, you know, I definitely recommend that

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people pay attention to what's happening in their

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own communities, especially this region of the country

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where we've seen some other companies trying to

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set up similar monkey factory farms in Texas.

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We've stopped them in Florida already to keep

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an eye on it.

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And one thing PETA is doing to try

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to stay ahead of it before any cities

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make promises that they shouldn't be keeping and

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that their citizens don't want is doing public

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records requests to agencies in the states.

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And this is something that citizens can do

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to send a public records request to your

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city officials asking if they have any documents

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related to monkey farms, or, you know, any

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kind of non human primate operation coming to

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town, really just to try to be in

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the know about it.

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But PETA is really doing everything we can

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to learn about any other thing, setting up

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and always encourage people to contact us if

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you're hearing anything on the ground, because you're

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the animal's best advocates for in your community,

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you know the most about your community.

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Our next caller, we've got Lindsay and Tarzana,

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your question or thought for our panel.

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Yeah, I mean, I'm just listening and getting

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angrier and angrier.

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I think this has such far reaching effect.

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I realise how the community how much it

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impacts on the community, but you were talking

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about the farmers and the farmers grow our

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food.

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So this is all this poison and all

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of this horrific insanity, this insane torture.

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We know that from studies that it does

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not work on humans, that in the human

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model, many of the drugs fail.

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That's a path in the animal model.

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We know all of this.

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Why is this still going on?

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And how could these officials, how could these

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officials see a line of people around the

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block and still question they have any right

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to put that there or give permission to

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put that there?

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You know, great point.

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Christina, what is the reaction of these people

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who made this happen or trying to make

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this happen?

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They are local residents.

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They didn't fly in from, you know, Mars.

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They live there.

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What kind of blowback are they getting?

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Well, our county commissioners have basically recent and

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they've done a little bit more research and

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they're regretful for their decision.

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As far as our mayor, city council, nothing.

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Absolutely nothing.

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As far as I know from communication with

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PETA between city council, mayor, I don't think

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there's been a whole lot.

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I don't think that, I know that the

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local media has not had any response from

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our local officials.

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It's pretty incredible.

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The board of education has not really responded.

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The development authority, the ones that brought this

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to the table have somewhat resent but not

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really because behind the scenes they continue to

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tell people on the street it's a done

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deal.

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It's still a go.

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You know, there's that PETA is blowing everything

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out of proportion.

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I mean, we have that.

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We have a clip of one of the

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members from the development authority saying that it's

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all PETA's fault.

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PETA's blowing everything out of proportion and they

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pay universities to do this and that, to

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write articles, just to hype everybody up and

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put fear into the community.

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We're not idiots.

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We're not idiots and we're all doing our

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own research.

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You know, it's like Amy said, the people

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here are concerned about the animals welfare as

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well.

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They've done so much research on their own

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and I mean, it's pretty incredible to see

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all likes of people come together and do

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their own research and really work hard.

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I mean, we've been doing this since January

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the 16th.

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We have been boots on the ground, doing

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everything that we can, but the collar, that

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last collar, the crops, that is something that

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really needs to be addressed because you have

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to think about it.

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We grow a lot of cotton.

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We grow a lot of corn.

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We grow a lot of peanuts.

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I mean, there are a lot of crops

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that come from this region and there's, and

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these farms surround the proposed monkey facility.

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Okay.

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I'm going to jump in because we have

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so many callers.

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This has hit a nerve.

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We got four now.

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Nilofar in Dallas, Texas, your question or thought?

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Hi, it sounds like you have a very

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strong case.

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So what's the likelihood of winning it?

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What is the approximate timeline for winning it

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and what can we do outside of the

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Bain County to assist?

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All right, Amy.

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So one thing that everyone can easily do

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is go to peta.org forward slash Bainbridge.

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That's B-A-I-N B-R-I

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-D-G-E.

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And there you can read more about this

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and you can quickly with the click of

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a button email the city officials in Bainbridge

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to echo the concerns of the residents there

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and urge them to stop this disastrous plan.

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And in terms of the lawsuit, I wish

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I was a lawyer and understood how all

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these timelines work.

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It's my understanding that this could take a

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while, but like I said, in the meantime,

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the companies had to have been put on

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hold for now.

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And so, you know, the longer it takes

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while it's on hold, hopefully they'll be sitting

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with it and feeling that this is a

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bad investment.

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It's not worth doing.

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A lot of the companies, biggest companies in

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the U.S. that experiment on monkeys have

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been reducing the number of monkeys in the

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last year that they're experimenting on.

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And these monkeys that they're talking about bringing

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to Bainbridge are an endangered species of monkeys

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now.

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The IUCN has listed them as endangered just

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in 2022.

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It's a terrible idea.

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It's only getting worse.

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And so hopefully they'll just shut down this

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plan altogether before it gets started.

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All right.

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In Dallas, Texas, your question or thought for

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our panel, stop the monkey business in Georgia.

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I'm just so impressed and proud of this

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community coming together and standing up against a

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corporation that puts profits before people.

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Congratulations.

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I'm so proud.

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I wish you all the best.

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What advice, what other additional advice would you

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give other citizens in other cities to organise

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and, you know, work together to, you know,

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fight off, you know, you know, interests that

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don't have our interests.

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How can we organise and be successful like

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you?

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Well, I want to jump in and answer

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that question with an observation.

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It was many years ago.

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I happen to be in Puerto Rico for

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a Hispanic journalist conference when two people came

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up to me very agitated.

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They said, we're from the Puerto Rican Bar

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Association Animal Rights Subcommittee and there is a

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laboratory monkey breeding facility that they've already built

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in a little town called Guayama in Puerto

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Rico.

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And they broke all the rules and they

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built it.

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And we don't think we can stop it.

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And I remember saying, don't say you can't

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stop it until you've tried.

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And PETA got involved and fought this all

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the way up to the Puerto Rican Supreme

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Court.

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And the Puerto Rican Supreme Court ruled that

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the company violated all sorts of regulations and

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it never got to open.

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It's, you know, the same industry that's now

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trying to open in Georgia.

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And it was stopped in Puerto Rico.

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And Amy, you've talked about, it seems like

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they're always trying to open it somewhere.

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Somewhere.

542
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Yeah.

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And I just want to, you know, I

544
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,940
echo just my, I've just been so inspired

545
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:15,780
by the people in Bainbridge who have been

546
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:18,380
coming together, different walks of life, people who

547
00:24:18,380 --> 00:24:20,860
never in a million years thought that they

548
00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:23,240
would become friends with a PETA staff member

549
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960
who I would consider my friends now.

550
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,340
I not only want to stop this facility

551
00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:30,480
because I care so deeply about the monkeys

552
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,000
it impacts.

553
00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:33,320
I care about my friends in Bainbridge too,

554
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,320
who are desperately trying not to get it

555
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,560
built.

556
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,040
And they are putting aside other differences and

557
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,740
all coming together.

558
00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:39,840
And it's so inspiring.

559
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,480
And I hope that people can learn from

560
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880
that in their own communities to really come

561
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,360
together, to work together on a focused thing

562
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,440
to stop it.

563
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,260
There's lots of ways you can take action

564
00:24:50,260 --> 00:24:52,620
to be pushing your members of Congress and

565
00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:54,640
other people to take action faster.

566
00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:56,300
All right.

567
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:59,040
We've got Caitlin in Austin, Texas, your question

568
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,020
or thought for the No Monkey Business in

569
00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:01,720
Georgia panel.

570
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600
Yeah, I just wanted to first say like,

571
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,640
I appreciate y'all doing all this work.

572
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,500
It's really important.

573
00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:13,420
I also wanted to touch on the fact

574
00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:16,380
of like, NIH has come out and said

575
00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:19,620
anywhere between 89 and 95% of these

576
00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:23,020
trials that are tested on animals don't actually

577
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,280
work for human clinical trials.

578
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,580
And so I'm wondering, y'all have anyone

579
00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:30,200
that is speaking about there that can outreach

580
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,940
to the public or talk to the people

581
00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:34,700
involved in trying to get this passed there

582
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,140
to educate them on their experience with animal

583
00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:40,540
testing and how it's no longer conducive to

584
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:41,340
progress?

585
00:25:42,860 --> 00:25:45,140
I mean, we all know this.

586
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:48,360
And, you know, the problem is covered this

587
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,580
for many years, and I'm just updating.

588
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
So people want to take action and we're

589
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,480
getting all these, how do we help?

590
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,220
How do we help?

591
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,580
Well, you just go to PETA.org forward

592
00:25:58,580 --> 00:26:00,000
slash Bainbridge.

593
00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:03,700
And hopefully somebody who's watching will also post

594
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:09,480
the GoFundMe, the local GoFundMe, copy this and

595
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,340
get it on Facebook so that those who

596
00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:16,020
want to support that can also go there.

597
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,300
They need funds there, and they haven't gotten

598
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:20,020
funds for the last couple of months.

599
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:21,680
So we need funds going in there.

600
00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:24,140
And I never ask anybody to do something

601
00:26:24,140 --> 00:26:25,040
that I don't do.

602
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,560
So as soon as I'm off this broadcast,

603
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,600
I will be donating.

604
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:30,140
I urge you also to donate to this

605
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:32,980
GoFundMe page so that the citizens on the

606
00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:35,300
ground have some support there for the buttons

607
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,120
and all the things that they're printing up.

608
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:38,440
And I'm sure PETA helps them as well.

609
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,440
So, you know, the truth is that our

610
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,420
government is what's keeping this going because they're

611
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:52,080
funding a lot of these experiments with your

612
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,320
tax dollars, knowing full well they don't work.

613
00:26:55,940 --> 00:26:58,740
And PETA has uncovered horror story after horror

614
00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:01,980
story, way back from the Silver Springs case,

615
00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:05,620
which was a national shame, all the way

616
00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:08,220
to things they're finding today with people doing

617
00:27:08,220 --> 00:27:13,200
just bizarre and stupid experiments, scaring monkeys, ripping

618
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,680
them away from their mothers and scaring them.

619
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,340
And it's just, it's mediaeval, it's barbaric.

620
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,660
And everybody knows that we're in the 21st

621
00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:23,060
century.

622
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,320
We have organs on a chip.

623
00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:27,360
We have so many other ways.

624
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,360
And they're using literally like 19th century or

625
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:32,700
earlier techniques.

626
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,020
And it's all because it's a big business.

627
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,180
The universities get a cut, so they want

628
00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:39,160
to keep doing it.

629
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,060
The people who are in charge of the

630
00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:43,440
National Institutes of Health, for the most part,

631
00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:45,480
are vivid sectors themselves.

632
00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,160
I mean, stop me, Amy, when I'm going

633
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,020
off the chart.

634
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,260
Yeah, no, you have it absolutely right, Jane.

635
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,320
And that's what makes it so hard is

636
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600
the people who are making the decisions about

637
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,940
what, where the money should go, for themselves,

638
00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:04,120
these, primate or other animal experimenters.

639
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:07,240
And so we're seeing change, it's coming slowly,

640
00:28:07,340 --> 00:28:08,160
but it's happening.

641
00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:11,100
You know, the number of primates imported into

642
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:14,500
the US last year fell dramatically, which is

643
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:18,400
so critical, because the primate experimentation industry has

644
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,960
literally been driving these long-tailed macaques toward

645
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,520
extinction.

646
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,360
That's part of why they are now endangered

647
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,000
is because the US has been pulling about

648
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,200
30,000 of them every year, for years

649
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,180
out of Asia and Africa.

650
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920
So that's something we can be hopeful about.

651
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,540
The number dropped drastically last year.

652
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,500
We need to keep the monkeys where they

653
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:43,620
belong with their families in the forest, and

654
00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:44,840
out of laboratory cages.

655
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,840
And the change is happening.

656
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,300
It's slower than we all want.

657
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,640
And we all need to be working together

658
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,460
to make it faster.

659
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,440
All right, Maggie in Sacramento, your question or

660
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040
thought for our fantastic Stop the Monkey Business

661
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,900
in Georgia panel.

662
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,180
Hello, hello.

663
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Thank you so much for what you're doing.

664
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,300
First of all, I feel so connected with

665
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,720
what you are doing, because actually here in

666
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Sacramento, we do the same.

667
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,040
We have UC Davis, they test on monkeys,

668
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,940
they have 5,000 monkeys here.

669
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,360
So we try to organise process here at

670
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,720
Davis and in Sacramento.

671
00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:22,320
But my question is, how can I physically

672
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,180
help you?

673
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,620
What I mean, like, I'm willing to travel

674
00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:29,060
and stay a week over there and help

675
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,500
you process and walking from door to door

676
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:35,180
and giving people slides, informing them what's happening.

677
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,740
How can we do it physically?

678
00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:38,740
Is there any information that we can get

679
00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:41,920
how to join you and how to, help

680
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,080
you basically processing it?

681
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960
Wow, what an incredible offer, Christina.

682
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,440
If you could, Jane's already posted the GoFundMe

683
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,080
account.

684
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,660
Honestly, that's the biggest help at this point

685
00:29:58,660 --> 00:29:59,200
right now.

686
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,200
We have so many lawsuits.

687
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:05,640
Things are not on hold, so to speak.

688
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,220
We are doing protests.

689
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,860
We're attending every city council meeting, every board

690
00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:14,460
of education meeting, every development authority meeting, every

691
00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:17,880
county commission, every local meeting we're attending.

692
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:23,980
We've got set groups that attend each meeting.

693
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,800
And then we also have our protest groups

694
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,700
that rotate.

695
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,520
We have our weekly prayer get together at

696
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,080
the downtown square so that it's visible, because

697
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,700
City Hall, of course, is right downtown.

698
00:30:39,580 --> 00:30:42,920
I mean, we're on the ground, but honestly,

699
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,500
because so many people think that there's nothing

700
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,620
that we're done, that it's done, that it's

701
00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:51,240
a done deal.

702
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,520
And we're constantly, constantly working every single day,

703
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,260
and it's not a done deal.

704
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,640
So that's why funds right now, the GoFundMe,

705
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:04,040
that is the biggest help.

706
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,760
Yeah, we're going to put that up again.

707
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,680
I have a question.

708
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,520
So you said that some of the local

709
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,180
officials are like, you know, they're just kind

710
00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:17,660
of forging ahead, but aren't they elected?

711
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,600
I mean, if the town is so outraged,

712
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,020
which you've offered plenty of evidence, a lawsuit,

713
00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:27,800
giant groups of people showing up to say,

714
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:28,960
why are you doing this?

715
00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,340
When's the next election, I guess, is my

716
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:31,820
question.

717
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,060
I don't have that in front of me,

718
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:42,880
but I believe 20.

719
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,860
Oh, you're breaking up just a tad.

720
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Maybe you could handle that one.

721
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,700
Well, yeah.

722
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,300
Amy.

723
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:52,060
Yeah, that's something that the locals are paying

724
00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:52,960
attention to.

725
00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:56,520
We've even seen some locals running for some

726
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,500
offices on a platform opposing the monkey farm.

727
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,060
So there's a lot of that type of

728
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:06,080
activism happening there locally.

729
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,220
And it's really powerful.

730
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,280
It's a small community.

731
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,820
It doesn't take switching that many voters to

732
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:14,020
this issue.

733
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,520
And there's a lot of people who are

734
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,860
very impassioned about this issue.

735
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
So I'm sure that's something that they'll be

736
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,860
working on in the future election cycles.

737
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,260
But what I don't understand is, and you're,

738
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,840
you are breaking up a little bit, I

739
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,460
would suggest turn off any phones you have

740
00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:32,080
so you can get a better signal.

741
00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:34,780
But let me ask you this, Amy.

742
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,720
I mean, look, what is, what would the

743
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,060
motivation if you're a public official, and people

744
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:45,720
are literally so outraged that they're filing lawsuits

745
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,160
and they're jamming into these hearings?

746
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,440
What would your motivation be to have a

747
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,880
stance that is completely in defiance of what

748
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,660
these people want?

749
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,660
I don't really get that.

750
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320
Maybe you could talk a little bit about

751
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,160
the money issues that are here.

752
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
What are the money issues, Amy?

753
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440
Yeah, I think you hit the nail on

754
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,200
the head there, Jane.

755
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
It always boils down to the money, right?

756
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,040
And what the company had got from the

757
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,440
city and county was a bond worth $300

758
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,760
million with an additional $60 million in incentives.

759
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,700
And the company is promising that it's going

760
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:32,120
to build the local economy.

761
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:34,080
They're going to create all these great paying

762
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,640
jobs.

763
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,620
Look at how much money we can sell

764
00:33:36,620 --> 00:33:38,600
these monkeys to laboratories for.

765
00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:40,140
It's going to be a boom to the

766
00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:40,880
local economy.

767
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,340
And that's what the city's banking on.

768
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Like most small cities in America, they're looking

769
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680
at what kind of industry they can be

770
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,260
bringing that is going to last and be

771
00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:53,560
a boom to the local economy.

772
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,960
But what PETA and the locals have been

773
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,660
trying to tell them is even if that's

774
00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:00,960
all they care about, it's a losing bet.

775
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,820
This is an industry that is on its

776
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:04,340
way out, not ramping up.

777
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,980
And so it's not even a good bet.

778
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:08,639
And frankly, it would be hard to even

779
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:09,580
fill these jobs.

780
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:13,000
We've seen private laboratories across the country struggling

781
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,659
to fill basic needs like the veterinary positions

782
00:34:16,659 --> 00:34:19,300
because they're just not jobs anyone wants to

783
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:19,580
do.

784
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,739
No one wants to have to sit and

785
00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:25,800
watch these monkeys being tormented in these kinds

786
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400
of places where they're kept in such unnatural

787
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,780
settings that they literally spin around endlessly in

788
00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:32,360
their cages.

789
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,340
They do backflips.

790
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:37,020
Sometimes they're even biting off their own fingers

791
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:37,620
and toes.

792
00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:41,159
They're driven absolutely mad when they are confined

793
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,940
in such small spaces that this is not

794
00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:47,540
an industry any compassionate person wants to be

795
00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:48,400
involved with.

796
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040
So that's what we're trying to convince these

797
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,280
city officials of still.

798
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,780
Well, I would like to tell you, and

799
00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:56,860
I think we've got you back, Christina, that

800
00:34:56,860 --> 00:35:00,620
I was involved in another battle to stop

801
00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:04,100
another similar laboratory monkey breeding facility, this one

802
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,820
in Hendry County, Florida.

803
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:09,980
And I got a call because, believe it

804
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:12,080
or not, my first job out of college

805
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
was in Fort Myers, Florida, and I had

806
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,420
kept some connections there.

807
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,860
And I got a call from a senior

808
00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:21,280
citizen, wonderful animal rescuer, and she told me

809
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,080
that they were trying to build another one

810
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,320
of these giant laboratory monkey breeding facilities in

811
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,220
Hendry County, which is just north of Fort

812
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:27,600
Myers.

813
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,980
So we went there and it was a

814
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:36,080
very similar situation where the local government, there

815
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,660
was this person who had come in and

816
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:41,020
they were sort of like economic development people,

817
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:41,600
right?

818
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,320
Now, again, it seemed like it was something

819
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,500
that couldn't be stopped, but it did get

820
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:46,880
stopped.

821
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,100
Not to say that there isn't another facility

822
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,680
there now, but that was pre-existing, but

823
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,840
they wanted to really, really expand it massively.

824
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:59,280
And what happened was there was this meeting

825
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080
of all the economic development councils in Florida,

826
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,200
and they were all supposed to do their

827
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,720
presentations.

828
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:07,360
And we all went, we bought a table

829
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:07,980
and we went.

830
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:09,900
And we sat there and there was this

831
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,500
one young woman who didn't want to go.

832
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,320
She said, I'm not into protesting at all.

833
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:15,540
And we said, well, you know, if you

834
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:16,260
want to come, come.

835
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:17,140
If you don't, don't.

836
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:18,600
And we're all just sitting there.

837
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,900
And the Hendry County guy got up and

838
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,220
did his whole presentation, never mentioning the laboratory

839
00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:27,940
monkey breeding facility plan.

840
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,300
That somehow outraged the woman who was reluctant

841
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:32,780
at first.

842
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,580
She rushed up to the front of the

843
00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:38,300
stage, jumped on the stage and said, these

844
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,660
people are hiding what they're trying to do.

845
00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:43,140
Words to that effect, all hell broke loose.

846
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,300
There were congressmen in the audience.

847
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,240
It became just a wild scene.

848
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:52,440
Reporters were coming up and asking me for

849
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,280
my video because I ran up and did

850
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
a phone video and it killed it.

851
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,500
It killed it because it was a shameful

852
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:04,940
experience at this highly prestigious conference.

853
00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:06,920
We hadn't even been planning to protest.

854
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,540
We were just there to see what was

855
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:09,040
going on.

856
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,220
But this woman got so upset.

857
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:14,000
She literally jumped up on the stage.

858
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,200
And you know what?

859
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,960
God bless her.

860
00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:21,800
Because that one action did more to galvanise

861
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,720
or to show the powers that be that

862
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:26,860
people were really upset.

863
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,100
So I always say never.

864
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,060
And the guy cleared out.

865
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,020
We went to try to contact him in

866
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:33,700
Hendry County.

867
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:35,060
We couldn't even find him.

868
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Literally, he had cleaned out his house and

869
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,520
we drove up and it was empty.

870
00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:44,420
So I bring you that story because I

871
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:46,620
say never give up.

872
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,000
There will be a point where it will

873
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,500
become politically untenable for this to move forward.

874
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,000
Now that we've got you back, what are

875
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,040
your thoughts on that, Christina?

876
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,660
We're not.

877
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,540
And thank God for PETA.

878
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,180
It would not be where we are right

879
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,920
now if it had not been for PETA.

880
00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:06,160
And we're not giving up.

881
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,180
Sometimes you wake up and you feel like

882
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:10,500
you're beating your head against the wall.

883
00:38:11,140 --> 00:38:12,900
Sometimes we are beating our head against the

884
00:38:12,900 --> 00:38:13,080
wall.

885
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,660
But we're not going to stop.

886
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:19,680
And regardless of the few local officials that

887
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,680
continue to say that they're not going to

888
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,260
stop and that this will continue, we're not

889
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:26,080
going to allow it.

890
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,820
We're just going to keep fighting.

891
00:38:27,980 --> 00:38:29,400
We're going to keep doing what we have

892
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,280
to do and we're not going to let

893
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,720
it happen.

894
00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:37,060
I there's too much farmland, the Gulf Coast.

895
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:40,080
There's too much at stake and we're not

896
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,660
going to happen.

897
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:47,780
I have to say, and being from a

898
00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:50,560
small town, it makes sense to me, but

899
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,780
I'm sure others from larger cities, it might

900
00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:55,140
not.

901
00:38:55,820 --> 00:39:04,740
But the attitude, the audacity of our

902
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:11,360
city officials that there's no heart.

903
00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:14,760
I mean, it's almost like it's money.

904
00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:16,840
It's only money to them.

905
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,180
And I don't know.

906
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,020
I just, I can't grasp that.

907
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:25,280
And that's why we've all just, you know,

908
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:28,540
we've got our boots on and our gloves

909
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:29,920
and we're not going to stop.

910
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,500
And you can see the GoFundMe right here.

911
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:37,880
Sorry, it's such a long URL, but if

912
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,220
you can copy it, do a screen grab

913
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:41,720
and then copy it down.

914
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,320
We really are urging people, those here today,

915
00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:51,000
to help this local group fight this monkey

916
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,900
breeding facility.

917
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,400
And so that's another thing.

918
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,600
So I want to recap and review.

919
00:39:57,020 --> 00:40:00,240
Has the judge made the decision as to

920
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,720
whether the company involved can be part of

921
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:05,180
the lawsuit?

922
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:06,980
What's happening with that?

923
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,400
Uh, yeah, Amy.

924
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,600
No, the judge has not issued a decision

925
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,600
on that part of this case yet.

926
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,640
So it could still take a few more

927
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,900
weeks for the judge to decide if they'll

928
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,080
let the company be involved in the lawsuit.

929
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:25,540
And then, of course, it will be even

930
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:28,240
longer for the entire lawsuit to wrap up.

931
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,060
So that will be the next step, though,

932
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,480
is the judge deciding if the company gets

933
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,440
to intervene in the case.

934
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:36,260
All right.

935
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:38,740
And we've got a report here from a

936
00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:45,900
local news reporter that actually shows really how

937
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,240
huge this facility would be.

938
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120
It hasn't been built, but you'll see.

939
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,400
AJ Douglas live at the Decatur County Superior

940
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,280
Courthouse.

941
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,660
I'm tracking a major legal battle as economic

942
00:40:56,660 --> 00:40:59,760
development continues to keep this community on edge.

943
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,580
Passing by court in Decatur County Tuesday morning.

944
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,640
You may have seen a colourful display like

945
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,240
this one.

946
00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:08,260
Neighbours in my community continue standing against a

947
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:09,800
proposed primate breeding facility.

948
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,160
The economic development project drove a small group

949
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,800
of neighbours to file a lawsuit against leaders

950
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,940
in Bainbridge and multiple agencies in Decatur County.

951
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:21,820
The reality is this is a case about

952
00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:23,060
the Open Meetings Act.

953
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,060
It is not about the bond validation.

954
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:26,500
The Open Meetings Act.

955
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:29,420
That's what Rebecca Davis argues multiple leaders violated

956
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:31,720
back in December when the economic deal with

957
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,140
Safer Human Medicine got the green light.

958
00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:36,900
Davis represents a handful of Decatur County neighbours

959
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,580
who decided to take their grievances to court.

960
00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:43,000
Their lawsuit says neighbours weren't given enough information

961
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,820
about the project before it moved forward.

962
00:41:46,340 --> 00:41:48,800
Neighbours, including Laura White and Verna Merritt.

963
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
They both were in the courtroom watching Tuesday

964
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,480
morning.

965
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,180
I was praying that our Lord God would

966
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:57,880
intervene in his will to be done.

967
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,720
It was an honour to be able to

968
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,180
be here at this court case and quite

969
00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:03,240
a experience.

970
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:08,080
So let me ask you, Christina, that's a

971
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,200
huge facility.

972
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,700
The bottom line with that report, which was

973
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,540
pretty well done, I'm sure she only had

974
00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:15,920
a very short amount of time to put

975
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
it together, so kudos to her, is that

976
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,160
they did it behind your back.

977
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:23,480
Tell us about that.

978
00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:31,420
Basically, in January, we were, a group of

979
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:36,380
people got together because we saw the Project

980
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:41,280
Liberty on an agenda and started doing research

981
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,780
on- What about me?

982
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,960
You broke up again.

983
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:50,020
Pick it up.

984
00:42:50,020 --> 00:42:51,380
Pick it up over there, Amy.

985
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,760
Pick it up on what happened there.

986
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,580
So the way I'm seeing it is they

987
00:42:56,580 --> 00:43:00,940
call this Project Liberty, which is just Orwellian.

988
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:03,720
You're going to put 30,000 monkeys in

989
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,100
cages and you're going to call it Project

990
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:06,480
Liberty.

991
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Okay.

992
00:43:08,140 --> 00:43:09,800
Think about that for a second.

993
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,100
Then they see this thing called Project Liberty

994
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:18,160
on an agenda item and then what happens?

995
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,760
Yeah.

996
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,360
They start paying attention.

997
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,100
Actually, one of the residents even went to

998
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:27,360
one of the hearings where they were moving

999
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,100
to approve this bond process.

1000
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:34,040
From there, the local reporters started reporting on

1001
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
it and it really just exploded in the

1002
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520
local community because at that point, the lid

1003
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:39,880
was off.

1004
00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:43,500
People understood what they started to understand, what

1005
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,740
was coming to town and doing their own

1006
00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:48,800
research about what this would mean for their

1007
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,560
community and the potential for zoonotic disease risks

1008
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,140
that come with these monkeys imported with severely

1009
00:43:56,140 --> 00:44:00,760
immunocompromised bodies and the waste that they generate

1010
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,320
and then learning who these executives are in

1011
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,200
this company and their history with other companies

1012
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:14,280
importing monkeys that have been experiencing lots of

1013
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,340
violations of US law and apparently international law

1014
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:21,840
with these companies bringing in monkeys and experimenting

1015
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,420
on them.

1016
00:44:22,420 --> 00:44:25,640
They reached out to PETA for help as

1017
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,940
we were learning about it and we started

1018
00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:28,680
working together.

1019
00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:31,020
Yeah.

1020
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,140
You know what?

1021
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,900
PETA has always been, in both of the

1022
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:36,620
other cases that I covered, the one in

1023
00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:38,380
Puerto Rico and the one in Hendry County,

1024
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:40,500
PETA was there front and centre.

1025
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:43,180
In fact, with the one in Hendry County,

1026
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,700
just as this was developing, PETA had done

1027
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,760
an undercover investigation with video at a nearby

1028
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,620
laboratory breeding facility, laboratory primate breeding facility, and

1029
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:57,920
that created shockwaves.

1030
00:44:58,460 --> 00:44:59,980
It was in the news.

1031
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:02,400
One funny thing I want to say was

1032
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,520
that just as is happening in Bainbridge, the

1033
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,360
powers that be in Hendry County that were

1034
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,780
pushing for this ginormous laboratory monkey breeding facility,

1035
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,860
they wanted to become the bio farming capital

1036
00:45:15,860 --> 00:45:16,600
of the world.

1037
00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:17,920
It's all coming back to me.

1038
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,500
They said, well, these are radical animal rights

1039
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,560
extremists who are trying to stop this.

1040
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,600
My friend who was in her 80s brought

1041
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,060
all her friends over to the hearing and

1042
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:35,600
they were all literally almost entirely a large

1043
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,420
group of senior citizens in tennis shoes, some

1044
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:40,600
of them in 80s and 85.

1045
00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:43,140
They were the cutest group.

1046
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:46,120
I remember looking at the reporter going, look

1047
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,020
at your radical animal rights activists here, just

1048
00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:54,560
local residents in their 80s and 70s in

1049
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,340
tennis shoes.

1050
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:57,860
They always try that, Amy.

1051
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,860
They always go for that, these are radicals,

1052
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,380
when these are really people who live in

1053
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:07,280
the community who very reasonably don't want a

1054
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,980
ginormous monkey breeding facility in their homes.

1055
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,660
That's exactly right, Jane.

1056
00:46:12,740 --> 00:46:15,860
They always paint everyone as radical extremists if

1057
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:17,660
you care about animals.

1058
00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:21,220
They always paint themselves as people who are

1059
00:46:21,220 --> 00:46:22,300
saving our children.

1060
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:24,460
It's just not the case.

1061
00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:27,760
What's even more offensive to me when this

1062
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880
company says that is that they don't even

1063
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,720
live in Bainbridge.

1064
00:46:30,820 --> 00:46:33,320
They're bringing all these problems to a community

1065
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,800
that they don't even live in.

1066
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,360
They live in their mansion up in the

1067
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,620
New England area.

1068
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,880
This isn't even their community to be disturbing.

1069
00:46:42,020 --> 00:46:44,740
They have no sense of what this community

1070
00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:47,220
wants and needs because they haven't even bothered

1071
00:46:47,220 --> 00:46:49,400
to spend time getting to be on the

1072
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,540
ground and getting to know these people.

1073
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,540
If they did, they would meet people like

1074
00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:56,640
Christina and understand what their values are and

1075
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,100
what they want their town to be.

1076
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,580
Their town was on the right trajectory having

1077
00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:03,080
all these great improvements and all these great

1078
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,100
investments in their local downtown before this happened.

1079
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:08,540
They want to see more of that, of

1080
00:47:08,540 --> 00:47:11,700
developing Bainbridge to a place that's friendly for

1081
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,260
families and a fun place to be, not

1082
00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:17,980
a place that brings in dangerous monkey breeding

1083
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:18,640
facilities.

1084
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,100
Especially because we see right now with the

1085
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:25,380
weather in Georgia, it's just such a dangerous

1086
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:28,640
place to be building this kind of facility

1087
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,780
where monkeys could escape.

1088
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:35,120
The 400,000 gallons of wastewater they're producing

1089
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,140
every day could be seeping into the water

1090
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:39,380
and the soil that the farmers rely on.

1091
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,760
It's just such a bad deal all around.

1092
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,080
And you brought up a very interesting point.

1093
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,820
I have covered this too as a reporter,

1094
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,480
monkeys who escape.

1095
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:51,320
These animals are very smart.

1096
00:47:51,940 --> 00:47:54,480
And when you talk about 30,000 monkeys,

1097
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,040
oh my gosh, there have been many, many,

1098
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,980
many escapes from facilities that breed monkeys for

1099
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:06,540
laboratory experimentation.

1100
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:08,360
In fact, I'm just going to say it,

1101
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:11,540
facilities that breed monkeys to be tortured in

1102
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:12,120
laboratories.

1103
00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:15,060
Tell us a little bit about that, Amy.

1104
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,900
Yeah, like you said, they're extremely smart animals.

1105
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,800
It can happen.

1106
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,520
And it has happened at some of the

1107
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,120
most secure places in the country.

1108
00:48:24,580 --> 00:48:26,340
So to think that it wouldn't happen here

1109
00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:28,500
is just reckless, frankly.

1110
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,660
And beyond even the animals themselves getting out,

1111
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:34,920
we know that these animals, these monkeys are

1112
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,420
coming into the country.

1113
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:38,420
They would have to import them from Asia

1114
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:40,720
and Africa first before they could do any

1115
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,220
breeding, which I don't understand how they would

1116
00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:46,540
even do that because there's so like, the

1117
00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:48,920
number of monkeys left is just dwindling.

1118
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,940
But they come in and they can harbour

1119
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:55,460
dangerous pathogens that can cross over to not

1120
00:48:55,460 --> 00:48:57,300
only humans, but to other animals.

1121
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,320
And so their neighbours with animals next to

1122
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,720
it on these properties are really concerned about

1123
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,560
their own animals too.

1124
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:07,660
And of course, their children who'd be playing

1125
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:09,120
right next door to these places.

1126
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,080
It's just, there's just too many potential hazards

1127
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,380
to this facility coming in way more than

1128
00:49:17,380 --> 00:49:19,860
any potential promise they're trying to get out

1129
00:49:19,860 --> 00:49:21,380
of it other than money for themselves.

1130
00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:24,440
All right, so where are we here?

1131
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,820
Because we've already done this story once.

1132
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,140
And I can tell you that Unchained TV,

1133
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,920
which is the world's only 100% plant

1134
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-based animal rights streaming television network, you see

1135
00:49:37,380 --> 00:49:40,580
it right behind me on my Samsung TV.

1136
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:42,600
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1137
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,360
Stick, a Roku device, or an Apple TV

1138
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,740
device.

1139
00:49:45,220 --> 00:49:46,520
We're going to stay on top of this

1140
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:46,820
story.

1141
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,540
And I want to give kudos to the

1142
00:49:49,540 --> 00:49:52,700
local news down there in Bainbridge because a

1143
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:54,360
lot of times these stories don't get the

1144
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:54,660
coverage.

1145
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
But those reporters, there were two reporters who

1146
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,680
did reports on this, they did a really

1147
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,340
good job.

1148
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,460
And I certainly would suggest, Christina, that you

1149
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:06,580
keep them up to date with every single

1150
00:50:06,580 --> 00:50:07,880
thing you do.

1151
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,540
Because having been a local news reporter, my

1152
00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:12,340
first job was in Fort Myers, Florida, many

1153
00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:14,900
years ago, I would get calls from people,

1154
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,580
oh, there's a story.

1155
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,180
Hey, I'm going to pitch that story.

1156
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,180
I'm going to go cover it if I

1157
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:21,560
get the okay to cover it.

1158
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,560
And that's creating relationships with the news organisations

1159
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,280
down there.

1160
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,400
So anytime you're doing something, turn it into

1161
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,660
a media event.

1162
00:50:33,020 --> 00:50:36,040
That's really an important thing to do.

1163
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,980
So let's see, can we get a final

1164
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:39,260
thought from Christina?

1165
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,220
Am I here?

1166
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:42,160
Yep.

1167
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,220
Yeah.

1168
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,960
I touch base with our local media, our

1169
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,420
reporters, at least twice a week.

1170
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,780
So we're good friends now.

1171
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,760
So we stay in touch with everything weekly.

1172
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:59,820
And we're, our story is actually international.

1173
00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:00,820
It's all over.

1174
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:03,020
So I'm grateful for that.

1175
00:51:03,220 --> 00:51:06,420
And thank you, Jane, for everything that you're

1176
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:07,320
doing for us.

1177
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640
And I mean, this is just going to

1178
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,060
just bump us up another notch to put

1179
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:14,720
us out there.

1180
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:15,900
And we appreciate everything.

1181
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:17,020
We appreciate PETA.

1182
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:20,440
And everybody in this town that has really

1183
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,140
just put it out there.

1184
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:27,820
You know, it's really amazing to see everybody

1185
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:28,700
coming together.

1186
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:30,740
And you were not stopping.

1187
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,560
You were texting me that you've had four

1188
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,460
near tornado warnings in this year.

1189
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,680
You've had flood issues.

1190
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,760
So that also impacts, my gosh.

1191
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,940
The flood warning, we've also had, the river

1192
00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:50,460
has, we've had three near floods from our,

1193
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,360
from the local river.

1194
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:54,940
So, you know, and the facility, proposed facility

1195
00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:58,640
site is right across the street, basically from

1196
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,460
the river.

1197
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:01,920
And this river is known to flood.

1198
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,400
So, you know, for all those reasons, I

1199
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,160
certainly think you have a much better shot

1200
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,900
than the naysayers are suggesting.

1201
00:52:12,660 --> 00:52:14,420
I mean, when there's this kind of opposition,

1202
00:52:14,420 --> 00:52:16,740
there is no such thing as a done

1203
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:17,200
deal.

1204
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,000
And one of the reports said, we only

1205
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,260
have a couple of seconds left, Amy, that

1206
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,720
some of the agencies involved have regretted it

1207
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,800
and said they are no longer in favour.

1208
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:30,680
That's right.

1209
00:52:30,860 --> 00:52:33,020
You know, they at first were just hearing

1210
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:36,080
this company's rosy idea of what this would

1211
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,260
be.

1212
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,400
And when they learned the truth, they, and

1213
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,240
when they heard from their own constituents and

1214
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:44,240
their own people who were their teachers growing

1215
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,540
up telling them that they're disappointed in their

1216
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:48,920
decisions, it really made them sit back and

1217
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,920
reflect and regret their decisions.

1218
00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:53,300
And so hopefully we see more of that

1219
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:54,560
from the city officials.

1220
00:52:55,180 --> 00:52:56,220
That's where we need it.

1221
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,340
And we encourage all concerned citizens to keep

1222
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:02,300
demanding answers because this is an industry that

1223
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:03,280
thrives in the dark.

1224
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,500
They try to stay in secrecy and it's

1225
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:08,800
time to keep exposing them.

1226
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,620
We're so grateful to the people of Bainbridge

1227
00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:11,320
for doing that.

1228
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:13,600
Well, we're going to stay on top of

1229
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:13,840
it.

1230
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,420
Please donate to the GoFundMe and support PETA

1231
00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:20,640
and go in and check out all the

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