UnchainedTV: Why Chicagoland is America's New Vegan Mecca!

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Welcome to Unchained TV, featuring best-selling author,

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TV journalist, and the founder of the Unchained

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That's UnchainedTV.com.

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And boy, do we have a show for

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you today.

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Nemanja Golubovic and Tamika Price, two superstars from

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Chicagoland as the Midwest becomes the new vegan

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Mecca, and they've got a fabulous new show

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called Kale Crew on Unchained TV.

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It is tantalising.

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It is an adventure.

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It is so exciting, and you're going to

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meet the host today, Nemanja, who's also the

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owner of Kale My Name, and Tamika, who

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is a social media influencer, and guess what?

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They were matching outfits, as you can see.

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Kale Crew is so very exciting.

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These guys are going to really give you

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this look at Chicago.

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You know, people think that the vegan movement

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is sort of a New York, L.A.,

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Berlin thing.

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No.

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The Midwest is going vegan like crazy.

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They go to Alice and Friends restaurant at

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the Glen in Chicago.

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It is super, super fun, and without further

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ado, I would love you to meet these

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two powerhouses, so let's do it.

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Thank you so much for joining us, guys.

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Nemanja, I want to start with you because

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we got this idea.

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We were at a party together, and I

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said, wow, Chicago is an amazing vegan scene.

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Why don't we do a show?

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And you just said, yes, and next thing

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you know, boom, you did it.

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The next thing you know, I was texting

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Tamika because, in my mind, Tamika is the

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face of a vegan Chicago foodie, and she

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just does that normally.

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She goes to these places and often drugs

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me with her, so we just do that

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naturally, and when you mention it, that there

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is a lot of things that you have

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in New York, in L.A., and you

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didn't have in Chicago, I immediately thought of

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Tamika, and I was like, if I'm going

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to do this, it is going to be

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with her, so I immediately texted her, and

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she said, boo, you already know.

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We've been talking about this.

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We've been waiting for an email.

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I told you, Jane, send me an email,

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and the second that email was sent, we

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came to an agreement and the show started,

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so.

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So, Tamika, you bring such life energy, verb,

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sophistication to this show.

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Thank you.

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Tell us, you are a social media influencer.

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You've been on the Rachel Ray Show, WGN

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News, all sorts of media.

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Why is this a passion for you?

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Oh, my gosh.

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Jane, first of all, thank you for having

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me.

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And secondly, it's definitely a passion, because once

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I was able to realise just how much

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it's done for my health, how much it's

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done for, you know, just my overall quality

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of life, and then how I've fallen in

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love with animals, like, I want to farm.

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I had to just share the lifestyle.

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I said, if it helps one person, I'm

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doing my job.

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So, I just hopped on and just started

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having fun and just sharing and just wanted

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to connect with other people like me.

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Well, I want to show a clip, because

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this is such a fun show.

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Again, I kind of trusted Nemanja.

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He's extremely successful.

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Kale My Name Restaurant in Chicago is the

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bomb.

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Like, everybody talks about it.

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He is literally, when you say Kale My

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Name, everybody is like, wow.

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So, let's show a clip, because I think

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you've really, really woken me up about how

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extraordinary the vegan scene is in Chicago.

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Hello, Hungry Kales.

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Welcome to our show, Kale Crew.

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I'm a little hungry, Kale, today.

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You want to come on a tantalising adventure?

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Absolutely.

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I cannot wait.

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My name is Nemanja Golubovic.

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I'm Samika Price.

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And we are in Chicago, where vegan options

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are everywhere.

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North, south, east, west.

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Well, we cannot go that much east, because

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we're going to end up in a lake.

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Lake Michigan, okay.

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Okay, but we can go some other directions.

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Yes.

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So, where are we going today?

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Okay, so we're going right outside of Chicago

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in Cicero, Illinois.

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It's called Taste of Bree.

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They're known for their tantalising vegan eats and

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meal prep.

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Mm-hmm.

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I cannot wait.

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And that's west, right?

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Yes, it is just west.

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Let's run west.

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Oh, okay, okay.

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Yes!

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I graduated from La Cordon Bleu, and I

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did a year there.

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I learned so much.

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And I really love making plant-based dishes.

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I feel like the creativity is endless.

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And you can just make so much, and

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it's good for you.

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So, that is so, you've made it fun.

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I mean, so many people consider veganism some

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kind of sacrifice.

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You really show them that it is the

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most fun lifestyle.

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I think it's a life...

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Go ahead.

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I'm sorry.

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No, hurry.

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Go ahead.

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What was it?

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I'm sorry.

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I was just going to say, when you

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said that, Jane, it just instantly made me

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think, like, I truly feel like this vegan

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lifestyle is a life of abundance and joy.

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It is, and that's the thing.

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It's like trying to convince people, Namanja, that

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this is not a sacrifice, that it's a

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really glorious adventure.

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You're making that happen with this show.

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It is really an adventure because I start

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from my personal experience.

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I immediately thought, before I was vegan and

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unaware, I thought that it's restrictive, that I'm

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going to give something up.

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But it's so not true.

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There's a whole new world that you get

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to explore and enjoy, and so many things,

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I didn't even know it existed.

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Back in time, when I would be eating

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everything, as people would say, I wasn't just

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eating everything.

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I would be eating three different dead meats

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and potatoes, and that would be my lunch

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and dinner over and over and over and

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for the majority of my adult life.

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And then once I discovered the vegan food,

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now I'm like, what else is out there?

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You're discovering a jackfruit and all the fun

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ways that you can be preparing them, and

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I'm discovering more things.

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I don't know, how to make your own

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seitan, how to make your own proteins.

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Even some fruits, I just fell in love

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with a dragon fruit that I didn't even

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know it existed before.

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So many things.

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Tempeh, I never heard of it before going

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vegan.

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There is so much, and I'm honestly exploring

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something new every day.

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Just yesterday, Tamika and I ate a chips

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that was made out of beets, and I

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was like, who thought of this?

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This is such a good chips.

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And I'm like, there is something new every

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single day, and that's what veganism is all

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about.

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It is absolutely not restrictive, but it opens

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so many new doors that are just incredible.

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And what it can do to you, it's

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almost like a magical miracle.

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That's what your show does.

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It shows people.

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So we're going to go to the callers.

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Paige in Los Angeles, your question or thought

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for Nemanja and Tamika.

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Oh my gosh, I just love your show.

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You guys are amazing.

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Thank you.

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Here's my question.

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What is your biggest challenge?

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And I want to hear from each one

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of you.

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What are your challenges on making the show,

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being vegan?

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Pick one.

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Thank you.

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Good question.

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What are your biggest challenges, Nemanja?

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Because you walk around town like you ain't

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got no challenges.

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It feels that way.

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I would mostly say not as challenging as

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making the show, because that's been really a

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smooth experience for us.

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And the reason for that is because we

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both enjoyed so much.

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We love it.

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We are texting each other the day before

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shooting an episode.

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We are going like, oh my God, we

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are so excited.

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And we just know we're going to have

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a great time, because that's our experience.

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And those are our personalities.

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So when it comes to shooting a show,

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there is not much of a challenge.

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Well, there would be one.

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We cannot go to every single place out

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there.

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Because Tamika said one fun thing to me

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when I said, oh, you know, we're doing

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a season one.

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We know we're doing the 10 episodes.

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We will see if we are doing this

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more.

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And then Tamika said, boo, we can be

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doing this for years.

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Because there's so many places where we can

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go.

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So that would be the challenge, that we

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cannot make every single restaurant in Chicago that

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we want to.

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But we'll try.

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Well, you know, it's funny you should say

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that.

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Because, OK, I'm going to confess.

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When you said, I'm going to do a

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show, I thought, well, how many episodes?

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Because how many vegan restaurants do they have

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in Chicago?

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And I've been blown away.

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And over the course of this hour, you're

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going to see that they have an entire

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vegan, not just supermarket, like a mall.

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I mean, it's mind-blowing.

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And I didn't know about this till I

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saw Kale My Name.

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So watch it on Unchained TV.

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We've got more callers.

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Niloufar in Dallas, Texas, then followed by Tiffany.

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Niloufar.

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Hi.

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In general, restaurants have a 60% to

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80% failure rate.

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What inspired you to leave a very successful

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career in hospital management and to launch a

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potentially risky vegan restaurant?

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Wow.

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I like your provocative questions.

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OK, Nemanja, take it away.

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We can't get away from the fact that

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this is very true.

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The restaurants are like one of the highest

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failing businesses.

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And the majority of them fails only within

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the first year because it's a rough business.

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And I think it's even rougher for the

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vegans because we are counting on that particular

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community and niche to come and support us.

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But what I had in mind is creating

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the food that everyone's going to like.

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So in the sense that I don't depend

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on the vegans.

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All you need to do is try.

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And I have a good way around convincing

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people just to try the food when I

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slip them a cauliflower wing.

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Then they are kill my name customer lifetime.

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They don't even have to be vegan.

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They keep coming.

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And honestly, like I gave it all in

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this.

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Like I entered with my entire heart.

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And I think that's the reason why it's

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our fifth year.

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We've been four and a half years in

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Chicago and now in the two locations.

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And I think the reason for that success

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is my passion for it.

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I'm extremely passionate about veganism and also the

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food that is for everyone.

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So that I don't have to count on

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vegans because sadly, like I'm going to be

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honest with you, if only vegans aided kill

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my name, we would not be able to

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live because there are many vegans, but it's

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just not enough for every single day for

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us to put like 100 to 200 orders

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out there, how much it's needed for us

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to operate smoothly.

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So I feel like a good food, a

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passion, a hard work and a good team.

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Absolutely.

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Okay.

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We've got more callers.

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Tiffany in Los Angeles, your question or thought

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for the Stars of Kale crew.

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Yes.

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Good afternoon, Jane.

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And I just discovered the show from Unchained

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TV in the last couple of weeks.

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And I've been obsessed.

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I love both of your chemistry together.

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And it just, I want to go to

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Chicago and go to the vegan places.

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I was wondering, have you thought about taking

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it on the road, the show?

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I mean, I guess it would be expensive,

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but have you thought about visiting some other

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states or areas?

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Wow.

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Good question.

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Tameka, you are a very successful social influencer

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and you're also a very busy lady, but

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wow.

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Since everybody's loving the show, what do you

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think?

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I love hearing stuff like that so much.

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And not only have I thought about it,

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like, like I just get grander plans.

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Like I know that that is something that

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can totally happen.

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So hopefully it'll be on Unchained TV and

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then we can go all across the world.

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That would just be so awesome.

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And your chemistry together, which a couple, several

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people have mentioned, is so amazing.

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You have, it's clear that you're having fun.

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Yes.

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When you have fun, the viewer has fun.

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So what, what is the secret to your

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tantalising, adventurous chemistry, Tameka?

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We're just, we're friends.

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Like Neiman invited me to like a Halloween

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party at Kale My Name, a birthday party.

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And we just started hanging out more and

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more.

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And I'm just like, he is hilarious to

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me.

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He cracks me up.

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If I'm feeling a little low energy being

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around Neiman, that's going to change in a

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hot second.

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So I think that we just really bounce

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off vibrancy off of each other.

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So it just works.

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And the show is so much fun to

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watch.

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Again, Kale Crew streaming on Unchained TV.

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And literally I feel like I'm taking a

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flight to Chicago every time I watch another

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episode and learning all about these different neighbourhoods,

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like the Glen and all sorts of Cicero.

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I had no idea.

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I've been, I was in Chicago once during

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a snowstorm for 24 hours and it's a

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blur.

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So thank you for turning us on to

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the Midwest vegan scene.

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All right.

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We've got Michael followed by Michelle, followed by

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Lindsey.

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Michael, your question or thought?

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Oh, hey, thank you.

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By the way, I love your guys' energy

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together.

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It's really amazing.

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But my question basically is, what was the

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thing that made you go vegan in the

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first place?

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Personally for me, I did it for the

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animals.

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But I love it when people go vegan

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maybe for health or, you know, diet reasons,

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whatever.

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And then they become, you know, they realise

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the connection between animals and, you know, food.

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So I'd love to hear like, you know,

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just really shortly your journey.

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I'm with you, Michael.

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Thank you.

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I'm with you.

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That was my reason.

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So Tamika can answer differently.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for that.

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I initially started for health.

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I battled with asthma and I watched What

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the Health after, you know, dealing with doctor

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visits and inhalers.

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And I was in, like, I developed it

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in my 20s and I was so confused

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as to why that could be.

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So watching What the Health, it, you know,

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it really focused on the health aspect of

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that.

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So when I did do it, I said,

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OK, I'm going to give it 30 days.

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And within a week and a half, my

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asthma completely cleared up.

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And so I just I've been sticking with

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this lifestyle since 2019 solid.

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And the way that it's just, again, transformed

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my entire quality of life and really heightened

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my compassion for, you know, animals.

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So I always tell people, if you're like

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on the fence about the lifestyle, if you

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feel that nudge or that pull, definitely immerse

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yourselves in the in all of the documentaries

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that are available to us.

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So watching all the ones that are for

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health, but also that are about animal agriculture,

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because I truly know like when we know

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better, we tend to do better.

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So thank you.

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I'm going to ask you a follow up.

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We got a bunch of callers, but you're

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saying to me you were suffering from asthma.

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Your life was miserable.

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You were going to doctors.

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They were giving you inhalers and you went

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vegan after watching What the Health and boom,

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your asthma went away.

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You want to know what's crazy, Jane, is

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I remember being in in my car and

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I had an asthma attack.

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And this was when I was first experiencing

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asthmatic types of symptoms.

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And I had an asthma attack in my

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car literally out of nowhere.

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There was no warning for it.

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And I honestly, honestly thought I was going

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to die.

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I thought, OK, should I pull into a

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pharmacy and just ask for an inhaler?

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And just thank goodness, it just ended up

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dissipating and passing on its own.

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But that was definitely a wake up call

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for me.

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So that's when I got on my laptop

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the next day and I was like, I

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have to figure out a natural way to

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cure this because this cannot be my this

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cannot be my quality of life.

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Wow.

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And so it's that's truly, though, like an

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endorsement of veganism.

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And I hear these stories all the time.

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And yet you go to doctors and hey,

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I'm a believer in doctors.

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I go every year.

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I you know, but this you know, I've

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been given an inhaler, actually, because when I

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was living in Manhattan, it was such smog.

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And I realised I don't need this.

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I don't need this.

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It's amazing.

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So let's go to the rest of our

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callers.

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We've got so many more clips to play

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for you guys.

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OK, we got Michelle in Los Angeles.

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Your question or thought for the Stars of

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Kale crew.

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Hi, you two fabulous people.

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Your show and you two are so enthusiastic

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and passionate and it's so genuine.

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It comes across.

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I wanted to thank you for that.

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I want to know, how do you pick

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your restaurants?

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And specifically, each of you, what are your

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favourite foods that are vegan?

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And which do you think tastes the most

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like the regular meat foods?

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Oh, Nemanja, you want to hit it?

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Yes.

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One thing that we have to agree on

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when we are picking a restaurant, we both

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have to like it, OK, which is not

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a hard thing because we are food lovers

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and like we love a lot of food.

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And honestly, some of the places we went

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to are like mutual favourites.

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Lately, lately for me, I've been more into

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like health food and I really love to

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explore like eating mostly food that it's fully

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focused on a plant.

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Rather than the mimic of a meat, I

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mentioned I went vegan for the animals now

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that I didn't like meat.

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I loved it.

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So meat substitutes were great for me.

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But lately, I just been really into that.

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And right now we are seeing that broccoli

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situation that was like so good.

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And that's how we how we decide.

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We both have to like it.

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And then it has to have something that

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we just love on the menu.

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And the herbivore next door is putting out

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some of the episodes.

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You can go to watch.UnchainedTV.com and

541
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,700
you can see all the episodes or you

542
00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:09,400
can just go to UnchainedTV.com and just

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00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:16,240
literally just click on UnchainedTV.com.

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00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,480
There's a button that says streaming and all

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the episodes pop right on.

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It's so easy.

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Everything is free.

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We do not charge.

549
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We are a 501c3 nonprofit.

550
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Our sole aim is to get people to

551
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,560
watch this content so they can see that

552
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going plant-based is an adventure.

553
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We're a happy group.

554
00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:37,740
We're not a glum lot.

555
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Man, we are having a good time.

556
00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:42,400
I mean, one of my biggest challenges is

557
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,320
can I go to all these parties?

558
00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:46,000
Can I go to all these restaurants?

559
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,260
Can I experience all this fun stuff?

560
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:50,260
There's only 24 hours in the day.

561
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,220
Okay, Lindsay and Tarzana, your question or thought

562
00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:57,660
for the stars of Kale Crew on UnchainedTV.

563
00:20:59,510 --> 00:21:03,210
I'm just so excited to hear that Chicago

564
00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:06,690
has such a large vegan community because like

565
00:21:06,690 --> 00:21:10,310
Jane, I was there many years ago and

566
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:14,390
there was like nowhere to eat, but it's

567
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:14,850
wonderful.

568
00:21:14,850 --> 00:21:17,370
And I just wonder if you have any

569
00:21:17,370 --> 00:21:22,030
advice for people just turning vegan in terms

570
00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:24,330
of, you know, how do they do it

571
00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:24,930
at home?

572
00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:27,610
Like, do you have some easy or some

573
00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:30,090
advice of how to find easy recipes they

574
00:21:30,090 --> 00:21:31,590
can do when they first start out?

575
00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:33,210
Thank you.

576
00:21:33,230 --> 00:21:35,990
I have perfect advice for that because like,

577
00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:38,430
as I just previously mentioned, like I went

578
00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:40,470
vegan for the animals, so like I wanted

579
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:41,230
all the foods.

580
00:21:41,230 --> 00:21:43,390
So I think the most beautiful advice for

581
00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:45,850
everyone going vegan is to try to eat

582
00:21:45,850 --> 00:21:48,690
the same foods that they normally eat, but

583
00:21:48,690 --> 00:21:49,690
just the vegan version.

584
00:21:50,030 --> 00:21:52,650
There is now available vegan version of everything.

585
00:21:53,170 --> 00:21:55,630
I cannot think of the foods that you

586
00:21:55,630 --> 00:21:56,570
cannot make vegan.

587
00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:58,590
So what do you normally eat?

588
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:59,270
It's the best.

589
00:21:59,350 --> 00:22:00,390
That's how I started.

590
00:22:00,530 --> 00:22:02,310
And later on, I learned to love some

591
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things.

592
00:22:02,730 --> 00:22:05,030
Like I just, my love for plants increased

593
00:22:05,030 --> 00:22:05,710
over time.

594
00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:08,270
Like I remember I didn't like tomato.

595
00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:10,270
Like now I'm eating tomato as if it

596
00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:12,210
was apple, just like, just like that.

597
00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:14,850
So I think that's the best way to

598
00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:17,330
start what you would normally eat as a

599
00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:19,430
non-vegan, but try to make that as

600
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a vegan version.

601
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:21,950
When it comes to recipes, there's so many

602
00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:22,330
available.

603
00:22:22,590 --> 00:22:26,650
There's so many books, internet, luckily in 2024,

604
00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:27,590
it's so accessible.

605
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:30,190
You can find a free recipe for everything.

606
00:22:30,690 --> 00:22:32,830
So I would start, I would start that

607
00:22:32,830 --> 00:22:33,110
way.

608
00:22:33,530 --> 00:22:33,970
Okay.

609
00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:37,790
I would start at unchainedtv.com, where we

610
00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:40,310
have thousands of recipes and we have a

611
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:42,810
video that explains each and every recipe.

612
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,910
And then you have the entire recipe.

613
00:22:45,170 --> 00:22:47,450
So I just put up a category called

614
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desserts.

615
00:22:48,090 --> 00:22:50,030
I woke up and I go, you know,

616
00:22:50,270 --> 00:22:51,050
I love desserts.

617
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:53,110
Why the hell don't I have a category

618
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:54,590
that just takes us to vegan desserts?

619
00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,050
So lickety split, I put up a category

620
00:22:57,050 --> 00:23:00,130
and I'm telling you these desserts, I look

621
00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:01,450
at, I look at the images and I'm

622
00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:02,710
like, I want to make it right now.

623
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:03,530
And they're healthy.

624
00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:05,930
Like we have Chef AJ, we have, she

625
00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:09,490
does incredible desserts without any sugar.

626
00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:10,350
She uses dates.

627
00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:11,010
I love that.

628
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:12,650
It's absolutely amazing.

629
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:15,430
Well, this is just so fun.

630
00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:19,770
I want to ask you about Chicago, but

631
00:23:19,770 --> 00:23:22,350
first what I'd like to do is play

632
00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:23,510
another clip.

633
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And this is a clip of Plant X.

634
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:30,130
I was not aware that there was a

635
00:23:30,130 --> 00:23:34,990
vegan, literally shopping centre in Chicago.

636
00:23:35,290 --> 00:23:37,390
And I only found out when I was

637
00:23:37,390 --> 00:23:40,910
watching your show on Unchained TV.

638
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:44,070
Did you know Chicago has entirely vegan food

639
00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:47,170
hall with six vegan restaurants inside, grocery store

640
00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:47,930
and vegan bar?

641
00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,250
Well, you're about to find out.

642
00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:52,010
I'm feeling like these Los Tamales.

643
00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:52,770
Tamales.

644
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:55,850
And I think I am feeling Los Tacos.

645
00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:59,090
And now we are in front of the

646
00:23:59,090 --> 00:23:59,590
Bodega.

647
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Yes.

648
00:24:00,290 --> 00:24:01,390
That's a new word for me.

649
00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:02,110
Bodega.

650
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:04,010
I didn't know what that meant, but explain

651
00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:04,510
to me.

652
00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:07,010
It's kind of a smaller version of a

653
00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:07,590
grocery store.

654
00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:07,830
Yes.

655
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:08,350
Which one you got?

656
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:10,090
I get the Herbed Feta and then I

657
00:24:10,090 --> 00:24:11,270
will make it with chickpea pasta.

658
00:24:11,410 --> 00:24:12,610
And then I just melt it in with

659
00:24:12,610 --> 00:24:15,190
the pasta and it's easy breezy and it's

660
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:15,770
tantalising.

661
00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:18,090
Oh my gosh.

662
00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:19,970
Easy breezy and tantalising.

663
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:24,050
I want to say, first of all, I'm

664
00:24:24,050 --> 00:24:25,330
a huge fan of Plant X.

665
00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:29,070
There is a Plant X market here in

666
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:31,510
Venice, California, where I live.

667
00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:34,050
And I go there all the time and

668
00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:35,350
it's absolutely fabulous.

669
00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:38,910
Like I go in, I always find something

670
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:39,310
incredible.

671
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:41,390
They have all the latest vegan products.

672
00:24:42,050 --> 00:24:43,350
So, wow.

673
00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:47,730
Where is Chicago when it comes to the

674
00:24:47,730 --> 00:24:48,770
big vegan cities?

675
00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:53,170
You deserve more respect, my friends, in Chicago.

676
00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:54,290
I agree.

677
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:57,030
Tell me about that, Tamika, because people talk

678
00:24:57,030 --> 00:24:59,150
about LA, New York, Berlin, and London.

679
00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:03,290
Well, I just, in my opinion, Chicago is

680
00:25:03,290 --> 00:25:05,410
one of those cities that is a food

681
00:25:05,410 --> 00:25:05,750
city.

682
00:25:05,970 --> 00:25:07,210
Everybody knows it.

683
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:10,210
So, like, it's really an honour to be

684
00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:14,530
able to help make that also true for

685
00:25:14,530 --> 00:25:15,390
vegan food.

686
00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:19,010
So, there's this, I'm telling you, I still

687
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:20,710
have not been to a bunch of places.

688
00:25:21,210 --> 00:25:24,570
I was just, like, researching places and, like,

689
00:25:24,670 --> 00:25:25,570
bookmarking places.

690
00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:26,990
Like, I have to go check this out.

691
00:25:27,030 --> 00:25:28,470
I have to go check this out because

692
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:29,670
there's that many options.

693
00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:31,610
And people are, like, the restaurant owners are

694
00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:33,570
consistently seeing the value.

695
00:25:33,870 --> 00:25:35,690
They're starting to see the value in the

696
00:25:35,690 --> 00:25:36,290
vegan market.

697
00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:39,190
And that even if you're not vegan, that

698
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:40,930
you may still want to dabble in it.

699
00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:43,490
You may be plant-based or part of

700
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:45,130
the time plant-based or something like that.

701
00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:46,690
Or you just may be plant-forward.

702
00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:51,070
So, it's definitely an awesome thing to have

703
00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:54,070
a more inclusive menu to allow a separate

704
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:54,690
vegan menu.

705
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:56,730
And I just love sharing it.

706
00:25:57,210 --> 00:25:59,690
And Karen LaCava says she's excited to visit

707
00:25:59,690 --> 00:26:00,270
Chicago.

708
00:26:00,550 --> 00:26:02,990
Karen, who's a friend of mine, the two

709
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:05,250
of us should go to Chicago and explore

710
00:26:05,250 --> 00:26:07,190
this incredible Chicago vegan scene.

711
00:26:07,390 --> 00:26:08,910
That's what made me want to do it.

712
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:10,550
Your show makes me want to hop on

713
00:26:10,550 --> 00:26:12,790
a flight and go to all these incredible

714
00:26:12,790 --> 00:26:13,430
places.

715
00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:18,850
What has the reaction been to the show

716
00:26:18,850 --> 00:26:20,510
in Chicago, Nemanja?

717
00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:24,590
I have to mention the Plan X Market

718
00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:26,790
first since I don't think I responded to

719
00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:26,930
that.

720
00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:31,410
I just love, like, how community is coming

721
00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:33,730
to hang out because there's so many events.

722
00:26:33,790 --> 00:26:35,150
It's really a lot of space.

723
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:38,550
So, besides, like, being just about food, there

724
00:26:38,550 --> 00:26:39,830
are a lot of fundraisers.

725
00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:41,510
There's a farmer's market.

726
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:43,510
There are people who are not even part

727
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:45,750
of the Plan X Market that they're coming

728
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:46,950
on a Saturday and Sunday.

729
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:48,730
And they're able to set up, like, a

730
00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:51,270
little stand and, like, sell their products, engage

731
00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:51,990
with the community.

732
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:54,590
Like, we just had a sanctuary that we

733
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:55,710
were raising money for.

734
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:57,350
So, I really love being a part of

735
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:57,990
the Plan X Market.

736
00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,250
And it's going to almost be a one

737
00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:01,370
-year anniversary over there.

738
00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:02,570
I'm very excited about that.

739
00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:06,390
Now, to answer how Chicago reacted to our

740
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:06,610
show.

741
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:09,070
Well, I really think Chicagoans are proud of

742
00:27:09,070 --> 00:27:09,390
us.

743
00:27:09,390 --> 00:27:11,670
And you hear people want to travel to

744
00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:12,930
Chicago because of us.

745
00:27:13,050 --> 00:27:15,470
We bring tourism to the city, baby.

746
00:27:15,970 --> 00:27:20,110
So, I really think the reactions have been

747
00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:20,610
amazing.

748
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:22,890
People are excited about the new episode.

749
00:27:23,130 --> 00:27:26,050
Every time we pause, somebody, like, engages with

750
00:27:26,050 --> 00:27:27,650
it and even say, like, we cannot wait

751
00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:28,510
for the next one.

752
00:27:28,990 --> 00:27:31,710
So, I think response from Chicago was great.

753
00:27:31,790 --> 00:27:34,310
But, like, what makes me even happier is

754
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:37,010
that there are people even outside of Chicago

755
00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:37,950
watching the show.

756
00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:39,970
Which it is, was an ultimate goal of

757
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:40,130
it.

758
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:41,830
But it makes me really happy that it's,

759
00:27:41,970 --> 00:27:44,610
like, not just Chicago viewers, but seems, like,

760
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:45,490
from everywhere.

761
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:48,070
Like, look at California calling us today.

762
00:27:48,130 --> 00:27:48,810
So, I love that.

763
00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:49,630
Yes.

764
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:52,870
You know, to me, what's really important is

765
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:57,630
that there are industries and there are people

766
00:27:57,630 --> 00:28:00,210
who are out to kill the plant-based

767
00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:00,530
movement.

768
00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:03,030
And, you know, The Guardian just did an

769
00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:07,890
article saying the meat industry has, like, a

770
00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:11,910
giant facility in Denver, Colorado that is churning

771
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:13,870
out all sorts of negative stuff.

772
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:17,930
Oh, meat processed, you know, vegans, vegan meat

773
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:18,950
alternatives are processed.

774
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:23,130
They don't mention that processed meat from animals

775
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:24,950
is officially cancer-causing.

776
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:27,810
According to the World Health Organisation, it is

777
00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:28,790
a carcinogen.

778
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:31,370
And red meat is a likely carcinogen.

779
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:34,730
So, I urge everybody to be very careful

780
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:37,270
because the news media, which I was in

781
00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:39,830
for more than 30 years, they take things

782
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:41,990
and they reprint them and they don't really

783
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:43,030
do a deep dive.

784
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:47,070
And, unfortunately, there's been some success with that.

785
00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:49,430
Now, let me just say this.

786
00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:53,690
We didn't create veggie burgers and, you know,

787
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:55,990
vegan chicken wings mostly for vegans.

788
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:58,430
We created it for meat eaters who said,

789
00:28:58,610 --> 00:29:00,250
I could never give up chicken wings.

790
00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:02,010
I could never give up my burgers.

791
00:29:02,330 --> 00:29:03,850
I could never give up my cheese.

792
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:06,170
So, then we say, okay, hold on a

793
00:29:06,170 --> 00:29:06,410
second.

794
00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:08,790
We're going to create alternatives for you.

795
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:10,070
And then they turn around and they go,

796
00:29:10,150 --> 00:29:10,870
well, that's processed.

797
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:12,030
Well, guess what?

798
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:14,550
Mother Nature has always been providing fruits, vegetables,

799
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:15,730
nuts, grains, and legumes.

800
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:17,510
You always have that option.

801
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:19,730
And I also try to eat whole food

802
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:20,330
plant-based.

803
00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:22,590
I have fruits and vegetables.

804
00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:24,430
Actually, it started during the pandemic, but I

805
00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:27,070
keep it going because it encourages me to

806
00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:27,650
eat that way.

807
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:29,110
I have them delivered to my house once

808
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:29,470
a week.

809
00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:31,170
It actually saves me money, too.

810
00:29:31,550 --> 00:29:35,170
So, let's throw out this old canard about

811
00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:36,610
being vegan is more expensive.

812
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:38,130
You know, you can get a sack of

813
00:29:38,130 --> 00:29:40,670
brown rice, a sack of black beans, and

814
00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:42,310
some potatoes and live for a month.

815
00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:42,990
Okay?

816
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:45,650
So, there's a lot of false stuff that's

817
00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:48,690
put out there by industries that are profiting

818
00:29:48,690 --> 00:29:51,030
from people eating animals and getting sick.

819
00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,650
Heart disease, cancer, all sorts of things.

820
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:56,690
So, for me, what's so important about this

821
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:58,570
show and one of the reasons I'm so

822
00:29:58,570 --> 00:30:01,550
excited about Kale Crew, our new series on

823
00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:03,710
Unchained TV, if you're just joining us and

824
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:06,430
you can go to unchainedtv.com and just

825
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:08,130
click on streaming and it's right there.

826
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:10,090
We've already got five episodes.

827
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:11,150
The sixth is coming in.

828
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:13,810
I'm excited because it shows that this is

829
00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:17,650
a grassroots movement that is the entire United

830
00:30:17,650 --> 00:30:17,990
States.

831
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:19,750
In fact, the entire world.

832
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:22,370
It's not just the way they try to

833
00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:25,690
make it like a bunch of super cool,

834
00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:28,450
you know, hippie-dippies in Venice.

835
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:32,390
But it's not just me.

836
00:30:32,770 --> 00:30:33,270
I'm kidding.

837
00:30:33,670 --> 00:30:35,450
I'm not super cool, but I do live

838
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:35,770
in Venice.

839
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:39,510
So, the point is that this really, the

840
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:42,930
power of the Kale Crew show and this

841
00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:46,490
series, this shows that this is happening across

842
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:49,810
America and in communities of colour.

843
00:30:50,790 --> 00:30:53,210
African-Americans, correct me if I'm wrong, Tamika,

844
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:57,110
are the fastest growing demographic switching to vegan.

845
00:30:57,290 --> 00:30:57,890
80%.

846
00:30:57,890 --> 00:30:58,970
80%.

847
00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:00,330
What?

848
00:31:00,870 --> 00:31:04,310
80% of African-Americans in the United

849
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:05,210
States are vegan.

850
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:07,890
So, I get those demographics all the time

851
00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:09,510
because I'm in the restaurant industry, so I

852
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:10,010
want to know.

853
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:13,690
And that's amazing and I love that.

854
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:17,610
So, Tamika, you know, in your series, you're

855
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:20,790
emphasising a lot of entrepreneurs, owners of vegan

856
00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:22,530
restaurants that happen to be African-American.

857
00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:23,690
Yes.

858
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:26,290
It's very personal and near and dear to

859
00:31:26,290 --> 00:31:29,110
my heart because before becoming Plant Based Tamika,

860
00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:32,870
I've, you know, had storefronts with my boutique

861
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:33,710
standout style.

862
00:31:33,710 --> 00:31:36,690
So, I understand, like, how it can feel

863
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:38,710
or how it can be when it's slow

864
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:40,870
or if people don't know that you're there

865
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:41,890
and things like that.

866
00:31:42,410 --> 00:31:44,410
And just, I just wanted to show people

867
00:31:44,410 --> 00:31:46,310
that look like me that, hey, this is

868
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:48,970
not something that is not for us, too.

869
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,030
Like, we can, you know, we all can

870
00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:52,870
eat vegetables and we can all thrive and

871
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:56,850
we can all just be healthy and also

872
00:31:56,850 --> 00:31:58,810
help save the animals, too, along with it.

873
00:31:58,810 --> 00:32:00,430
All right.

874
00:32:00,530 --> 00:32:04,770
We've got yet another caller, Karen, in infamous

875
00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:06,170
Venice, California.

876
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,110
Karen, what is your question or thought?

877
00:32:10,550 --> 00:32:11,470
Hi, you guys.

878
00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:14,090
First of all, I love your energy and

879
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:15,930
I love vegan soul food.

880
00:32:16,030 --> 00:32:16,930
It's awesome.

881
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:20,590
So, I'm a vegan chef and I do

882
00:32:20,590 --> 00:32:21,510
a lot of parties.

883
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:24,850
And I'm wondering, what are your favourite vegan

884
00:32:24,850 --> 00:32:27,190
party foods that you like to eat when

885
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:28,850
you're at parties and that you like to

886
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:29,710
make for parties?

887
00:32:31,290 --> 00:32:33,190
Well, I can chime in on that.

888
00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:36,390
I would say my favourite thing to make

889
00:32:36,390 --> 00:32:38,950
and that has been a consistent hit for

890
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:40,110
any time I'm entertaining.

891
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:43,150
It's on my website, too.

892
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:46,290
It's basically the veggie loaded hummus flatbread.

893
00:32:46,990 --> 00:32:49,610
No one really realises that it doesn't involve

894
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:51,470
cheese and it doesn't involve any meat.

895
00:32:51,650 --> 00:32:54,810
And they're just all, like, tantalised by all

896
00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:57,170
of the flavours of the veggies that are

897
00:32:57,170 --> 00:32:59,830
roasted, seasoned, and then the flavorful hummus on

898
00:32:59,830 --> 00:33:00,230
there, too.

899
00:33:00,330 --> 00:33:02,710
So, just cut those up into little squares.

900
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:04,370
And to me, that's just like a very

901
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:08,650
vibrant, easy kind of plate that's also somewhat

902
00:33:08,650 --> 00:33:09,350
filling, too.

903
00:33:09,610 --> 00:33:11,050
So, that's kind of like my go-to

904
00:33:11,050 --> 00:33:12,050
thing when I'm entertaining.

905
00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:14,570
But when I'm at parties, like, look, I'm

906
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:16,150
not going to pretend.

907
00:33:16,330 --> 00:33:17,930
Like, my absolute favourite food is pizza.

908
00:33:18,490 --> 00:33:19,290
Sushi comes next.

909
00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,270
So, if those two types of items are

910
00:33:21,270 --> 00:33:22,350
there, I'm a happy girl.

911
00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:25,290
And I love the fact that you guys

912
00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:27,330
coordinate your outfits, clearly.

913
00:33:27,730 --> 00:33:29,810
And it just started happening like that, Jane.

914
00:33:29,870 --> 00:33:32,090
We didn't even do it like it just

915
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:32,790
started happening.

916
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:35,370
I love this outfit.

917
00:33:35,490 --> 00:33:39,190
And this is Alice and Friends you visited.

918
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:42,170
Now, this is a very, I would say,

919
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:43,490
gourmet cuisine.

920
00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:46,710
Tell us a little bit about the variety

921
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:48,170
in the cuisine.

922
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:49,990
Because we're going to cover one that does

923
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:51,410
more fast food alternatives.

924
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:56,090
But this is just really gourmet, Asian-themed

925
00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:56,450
cuisine.

926
00:33:56,610 --> 00:33:57,410
Correct, Nemanja?

927
00:33:57,910 --> 00:33:59,190
That is correct, yeah.

928
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:01,710
And that's when we knew we want to

929
00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:02,110
do it.

930
00:34:02,150 --> 00:34:03,730
Because it is so fun.

931
00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:04,870
The food is so good.

932
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:06,910
Samika and I both personally love it.

933
00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:08,650
I've been a customer of Alice and Friends

934
00:34:08,650 --> 00:34:10,230
for a really, really long time.

935
00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:12,770
We are even friends with Omar Moon, who's

936
00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:13,389
been incredible.

937
00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:17,870
That's a general manager of their kitchen that

938
00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:19,929
creates a lot of recipes and just does

939
00:34:19,929 --> 00:34:22,070
incredible, incredible things.

940
00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:25,350
Like, I honestly said, like, I know it's

941
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:26,290
a big of a statement.

942
00:34:26,290 --> 00:34:28,449
But I think they made the best mac

943
00:34:28,449 --> 00:34:29,310
and cheese in the world.

944
00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:31,290
Vegan or not, it's just simply the best

945
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:32,750
mac and cheese in the world.

946
00:34:32,889 --> 00:34:33,830
Like, it's so good.

947
00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:35,230
Everybody got to try it.

948
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:37,330
And I think their secret is, like, after

949
00:34:37,330 --> 00:34:41,610
the macaroni are boiled, they're going in a

950
00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:42,489
pan on a grill.

951
00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:44,510
And, like, I don't know, that does some

952
00:34:44,510 --> 00:34:45,389
miracle to them.

953
00:34:45,469 --> 00:34:47,010
They just get a little crispiness.

954
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:49,310
And then, like, a cheese gets even more

955
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:49,889
melty.

956
00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:53,130
And just the whole situation, it's so good.

957
00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:56,550
And then, particularly not, like, an Asian-inspired

958
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:56,870
dish.

959
00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:58,750
And it's weird that an Asian restaurant does

960
00:34:58,750 --> 00:34:59,370
it the best.

961
00:34:59,490 --> 00:35:00,430
But it's, like, so good.

962
00:35:00,770 --> 00:35:02,030
They do have diversity in the menu.

963
00:35:02,110 --> 00:35:03,650
They're also known for their desserts.

964
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:05,970
And the end of that episode, Tameka and

965
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:07,710
I get surprised by the owner with the

966
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:11,250
two incredible desserts that were to, like, lick

967
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:11,870
your fingers.

968
00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:14,210
Guys, I'm getting really hungry.

969
00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:15,130
I'll see you later.

970
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:18,930
I want to go to another one, which

971
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:23,550
is, yes, there is vegan fast food style.

972
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:26,390
What I find so annoys me is, I

973
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:29,230
drive down Lincoln Boulevard, for example, it's like

974
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:31,450
one fast food restaurant after another.

975
00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:33,890
Where are all the people beating their chests?

976
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:35,470
This isn't healthy for you.

977
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:38,110
Then we come up with plant-based alternatives

978
00:35:38,110 --> 00:35:42,010
to fast food, which is automatically healthier because

979
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:45,230
there's zero cholesterol in any vegan product.

980
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:47,630
Challenge me, go up and down the supermarket

981
00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:48,290
aisles.

982
00:35:48,370 --> 00:35:50,690
Every single vegan product says zero cholesterol.

983
00:35:51,570 --> 00:35:56,870
And essentially, we mimic some of the look

984
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:57,830
of fast food.

985
00:35:57,990 --> 00:36:00,650
But if you think about what's in it,

986
00:36:00,650 --> 00:36:05,750
it's actually vegetables mushed together to make a

987
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:06,170
patty.

988
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:08,830
So let's, you know, let's take a look

989
00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:10,890
at this one restaurant, which I want to

990
00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:12,970
visit as soon as I get to Chicago.

991
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:15,370
Can't believe it's not me.

992
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:17,610
I'm Tameka Price.

993
00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:20,110
And welcome to another tantalising adventure.

994
00:36:20,330 --> 00:36:21,790
Tameka, where are we going today?

995
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:23,250
I'm so glad you asked me.

996
00:36:23,570 --> 00:36:25,810
We are going to one of Chicago's top

997
00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:27,890
spots for tantalising vegan eats.

998
00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:29,310
Can't believe it's not me.

999
00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:30,530
Can't believe it.

1000
00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:32,070
Can't believe it's not me.

1001
00:36:32,170 --> 00:36:34,570
It's a fun vegan junk food restaurant.

1002
00:36:35,010 --> 00:36:37,690
So because when my family and I have

1003
00:36:37,690 --> 00:36:40,690
become a vegan, we couldn't find things that

1004
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:42,770
was just like, you know, really fun stuff

1005
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:44,370
that my son and my family miss.

1006
00:36:44,830 --> 00:36:46,170
You know, my son, he still wanted fun

1007
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:46,450
stuff.

1008
00:36:46,690 --> 00:36:49,510
Chicken nuggets, burgers, like cool fast food stuff.

1009
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:52,630
But everything then at that time was just

1010
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:54,530
like a lot of, you know, mushroom based

1011
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:55,110
quinoa.

1012
00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:58,150
Like everything was just like not aimed towards

1013
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:58,810
fast food.

1014
00:36:59,410 --> 00:37:01,730
We found a boy there and I was

1015
00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:03,930
like, that would be wonderful to open up

1016
00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:04,830
a restaurant like that.

1017
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:07,050
But it came from, I would let my

1018
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,910
family eat it that was not vegan and

1019
00:37:08,910 --> 00:37:09,610
they'll taste it.

1020
00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:10,990
And they'll be like, I can't believe it's

1021
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:11,330
not me.

1022
00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:13,990
I can't believe it's not me.

1023
00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:16,470
The food is mouthwatering.

1024
00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:18,450
I mean, all of the restaurants you visit,

1025
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:21,950
but boy that, the burger shakes, fries.

1026
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:25,450
And just tell me about that restaurant and

1027
00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:27,530
the woman who started it.

1028
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:29,970
Yeah, Chef Fab is wonderful.

1029
00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:33,310
My mouth just literally started to water watching

1030
00:37:33,310 --> 00:37:33,670
it.

1031
00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:35,130
I was like, oh my gosh.

1032
00:37:35,570 --> 00:37:36,930
So yeah, I do love that.

1033
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:39,650
They cater to also not just like the

1034
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:42,370
vegan junk food, but a lot of, there's

1035
00:37:42,370 --> 00:37:45,730
like Chicago classics that they also make.

1036
00:37:46,190 --> 00:37:48,750
And it's just all just so, so, so

1037
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:49,030
good.

1038
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:51,550
Like that was one of the first restaurants

1039
00:37:51,550 --> 00:37:52,250
that I visited.

1040
00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:55,690
And it made me, when I said I

1041
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:57,150
was going to do 30 days, you know,

1042
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:58,930
plant-based, I was like, maybe I could

1043
00:37:58,930 --> 00:38:00,330
do this a hundred percent.

1044
00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:01,910
So that was one of the places.

1045
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:03,130
So it's so good.

1046
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:04,930
Well, you guys are very important.

1047
00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:05,490
Go ahead.

1048
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:06,230
Go ahead, Nemanja.

1049
00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:08,370
I just want to say that like Tamika's

1050
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:10,690
favourite is there like a Philly cheesesteak, which

1051
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:12,510
is like a very traditional take on like

1052
00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:13,290
a Chicago dish.

1053
00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:15,390
And that patty melt from Can't Believe It's

1054
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:15,810
Not Meat.

1055
00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:18,930
It's like, I don't remember patty melt being

1056
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:19,410
that good.

1057
00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:19,930
Honestly.

1058
00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:22,150
Cause like it was not like my favourite

1059
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:23,130
thing back in time.

1060
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:25,350
It's been for me like nine years since

1061
00:38:25,350 --> 00:38:26,230
I had meat.

1062
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:29,930
But like that patty melt from Can't Believe

1063
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:31,410
It's Not Meat is literally one of the

1064
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:31,710
best.

1065
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:32,710
Yeah.

1066
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:33,970
And everybody's sharing.

1067
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:36,090
And so many people are saying we've got

1068
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:38,810
to go to Chicago road trip.

1069
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:39,910
Oh, wow.

1070
00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:41,370
This is making me hungry.

1071
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:44,810
I want to go to Chicago road trip.

1072
00:38:44,970 --> 00:38:45,870
Oh my gosh.

1073
00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:48,070
I think that we're going to get a

1074
00:38:48,070 --> 00:38:48,690
whole crew.

1075
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:50,350
You know what we could do?

1076
00:38:50,650 --> 00:38:55,730
I'm always cooking up different little adventures in

1077
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:56,290
my head.

1078
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:57,370
That's how I get into trouble.

1079
00:38:57,730 --> 00:39:00,370
We could do a group road trip from

1080
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:04,710
LA to Chicago and do the tour of

1081
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,110
the restaurants that you profile.

1082
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:08,890
I love that.

1083
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:11,450
You should follow us on the way too.

1084
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:12,750
Yeah.

1085
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:13,990
Absolutely.

1086
00:39:14,490 --> 00:39:15,030
That would be fun.

1087
00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:17,410
We probably, I don't know, but it should

1088
00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:18,990
be a long tour in the sense that

1089
00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:21,030
if we went to every single restaurant in

1090
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:21,670
two days.

1091
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:23,110
Well, every time you're hungry.

1092
00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:24,770
Every time you're hungry, we could go to

1093
00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:25,170
a new restaurant.

1094
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:26,770
Every time you're hungry, which could be four

1095
00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:27,850
to five times a day.

1096
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:31,350
Now let me ask you, Nemanja, you're, both

1097
00:39:31,350 --> 00:39:33,610
of you are social media influencers.

1098
00:39:33,610 --> 00:39:36,290
You have your pulse, your finger on the

1099
00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:37,330
pulse of the nation.

1100
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:39,030
Where are we?

1101
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:42,430
Because, you know, I've been vegan about 28

1102
00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:44,870
years and Tom says, let me know when

1103
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:45,270
you're here.

1104
00:39:45,330 --> 00:39:46,010
We will, Tom.

1105
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:47,730
Don't worry about that for sure.

1106
00:39:48,430 --> 00:39:50,470
But I've been vegan about 28 years.

1107
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:54,210
When I first went vegan, you know, there

1108
00:39:54,210 --> 00:39:56,490
were like two restaurants and they were mostly

1109
00:39:56,490 --> 00:39:58,990
like macrobiotic, nothing against macrobiotics.

1110
00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,410
My parents were actually macrobiotic for quite a

1111
00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:04,510
while, but I knew everybody.

1112
00:40:04,830 --> 00:40:07,790
They were empty, you know, and now a

1113
00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:09,210
lot of times it's hard to get a

1114
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:11,090
table at the hot vegan restaurants.

1115
00:40:11,330 --> 00:40:13,030
I mean, we've got a lot of hot

1116
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:13,990
vegan restaurants here.

1117
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:15,390
I don't want to leave any out, but

1118
00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:18,530
just to throw out a couple, Planta, Crossroads,

1119
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:20,930
Cavendish, Gracias Madre.

1120
00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:22,550
A lot of times it's really hard to

1121
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:24,410
get a table at those and nothing makes

1122
00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:24,970
me happier.

1123
00:40:25,470 --> 00:40:27,150
Honestly, I can tell you, nothing makes me

1124
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:28,630
happier than having to wait for a table

1125
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:30,510
at a vegan restaurant because for so many

1126
00:40:30,510 --> 00:40:34,090
years, I fantasised about that scenario.

1127
00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:36,170
So where are we?

1128
00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:38,670
Because there's, that's a good point there.

1129
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:40,510
But on the other side, as I mentioned,

1130
00:40:40,970 --> 00:40:44,910
you have these very powerful industries on the

1131
00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:46,750
attack because they're scared.

1132
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:48,530
They see people going vegan and they see

1133
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:50,770
money, money, money going away and they want

1134
00:40:50,770 --> 00:40:53,150
people to keep eating the same food that's

1135
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:54,990
making them really, really sick.

1136
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:57,030
So where are we, Nemanja?

1137
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:58,030
And then we'll go to Tamika.

1138
00:40:58,690 --> 00:41:00,710
Jane, you just reminded me of a joke

1139
00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:03,530
where like getting mad at the grocery store

1140
00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:06,290
that the vegan supplies, it's sold out, but

1141
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:08,270
then being happy because that means it's in

1142
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:08,630
demand.

1143
00:41:09,590 --> 00:41:11,250
So you just reminded me of that.

1144
00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:13,190
As you said, you enjoy waiting for a

1145
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:15,210
table at a vegan restaurant, which is funny.

1146
00:41:16,110 --> 00:41:18,070
I think, I agree with you.

1147
00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:20,630
The meat industry, the dairy industry is desperate.

1148
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:22,370
And I spoke about that on my podcast.

1149
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:24,850
I really think they're so desperate that they're

1150
00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:27,650
trying to pull like the last rows of

1151
00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:29,390
like to save themselves.

1152
00:41:30,030 --> 00:41:33,090
But I think people are recognising those and

1153
00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:35,490
I don't think it's doing much, particularly not

1154
00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:37,030
for the dairy industry.

1155
00:41:37,570 --> 00:41:39,830
When it comes, oh, Kale, Kale, my dog

1156
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:40,490
is present.

1157
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:46,330
Anyway, when it comes to the meat industry

1158
00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:49,930
trying to, Kale, come here, come here.

1159
00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:52,810
My dog, it's just, you know, it's a

1160
00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:53,610
live show.

1161
00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:55,230
So like that can happen.

1162
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:57,410
Kale, my name.

1163
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:59,030
And yes, exactly.

1164
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,610
That is my everything.

1165
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:03,290
Anyway, meat industry.

1166
00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:06,330
I recently chatted with my cousin who was,

1167
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:07,490
my entire family went vegan.

1168
00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,790
I convinced them all, but my cousin didn't.

1169
00:42:09,790 --> 00:42:11,990
And I was recently chatting about it and

1170
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:13,350
then she was trying to convince me that

1171
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:14,290
it's not a good option.

1172
00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:16,550
And I asked her, why are we even

1173
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:17,650
having this debate?

1174
00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:22,630
I was like, mine, it's to support life

1175
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:24,570
and yours is to support death.

1176
00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:26,670
You will never win this, so let's just

1177
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:27,210
end it.

1178
00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:30,070
And that is my opinion on like where

1179
00:42:30,070 --> 00:42:31,450
this is going, right?

1180
00:42:31,690 --> 00:42:35,950
Like they will never win because we want

1181
00:42:35,950 --> 00:42:37,170
to support life.

1182
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:38,570
And I think that's it.

1183
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:39,850
Absolutely.

1184
00:42:40,590 --> 00:42:42,390
And also for the climate.

1185
00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:45,430
I mean, climate change is no longer some

1186
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:46,770
theoretical thing out there.

1187
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:47,790
It's hitting people.

1188
00:42:48,510 --> 00:42:50,530
And one of the reasons I started Unchained

1189
00:42:50,530 --> 00:42:53,150
TV is because having been in the news

1190
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:56,850
media for decades, I saw that they would

1191
00:42:56,850 --> 00:42:59,210
cover all the catastrophes, but then when a

1192
00:42:59,210 --> 00:43:01,710
solution comes up that's a clear cut solution.

1193
00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:04,350
And I'll give you a very specific example.

1194
00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:06,170
I've got it right here.

1195
00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,550
Let me find it because it's worth, here

1196
00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:09,950
we go.

1197
00:43:10,670 --> 00:43:12,570
Put down that hamburger, save the planet.

1198
00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:13,650
New York Times.

1199
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:16,910
Researchers examined the diets of 55,500 people

1200
00:43:16,910 --> 00:43:19,210
and found that vegans are responsible for 75

1201
00:43:19,210 --> 00:43:22,510
% less in greenhouse gases than meat eaters.

1202
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:25,490
Now, that means that if everybody went vegan,

1203
00:43:25,650 --> 00:43:28,610
we would reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 75%.

1204
00:43:28,610 --> 00:43:29,550
That's a solution.

1205
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:30,270
Hello?

1206
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:32,870
No coverage.

1207
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:34,650
No coverage on any of the major networks

1208
00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:36,070
or any of the minor networks.

1209
00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:37,930
I mean, we're the only ones that are

1210
00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:38,690
talking about it now.

1211
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:40,970
Kudos to the New York Times for publishing

1212
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:41,310
that.

1213
00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:42,610
It was kind of buried.

1214
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:43,410
The article wasn't.

1215
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:44,290
It should be a headline.

1216
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:47,470
They do headlines about the catastrophes, the fires,

1217
00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:51,890
the floods, the buildings collapsing, all of these

1218
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:52,130
things.

1219
00:43:52,450 --> 00:43:54,310
And then when a clear cut solution is

1220
00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:57,010
offered, they completely ignore it.

1221
00:43:57,450 --> 00:44:00,450
So that's why I started Unchained TV.

1222
00:44:00,450 --> 00:44:03,430
So if the clock is ticking, we have

1223
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:04,510
to get people on board.

1224
00:44:04,990 --> 00:44:06,750
And then, you know, when they lose their

1225
00:44:06,750 --> 00:44:10,340
house in a fire, is it going to

1226
00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:13,480
take that for them to get the connection?

1227
00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:15,780
That they could have been part of the

1228
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:16,160
solution?

1229
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,360
So this is one of the reasons I

1230
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,420
started Unchained TV, because the reason why you

1231
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:24,060
won't see it on mainstream television is look

1232
00:44:24,060 --> 00:44:25,180
at the advertisers.

1233
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,720
Fast food and pharmaceuticals.

1234
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:28,800
Your thoughts on that, Tamika?

1235
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Yeah, it's ultimately, to me, it's a money

1236
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,620
issue.

1237
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:36,740
It can be a cognitive dissonance issue with

1238
00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:42,080
individuals, but ultimately this is like this is

1239
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,720
about big business.

1240
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,100
I just think that the best way for

1241
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,620
us individually to influence people and just let

1242
00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:53,240
them see what's going on is just to

1243
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:57,820
continue to share and let them let them

1244
00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,460
get to that point themselves, because a lot

1245
00:44:59,460 --> 00:45:01,000
of times when people feel forced or that

1246
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,680
their arm is twisted and things like that,

1247
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200
you'll be met with more resistance.

1248
00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:09,200
So that's honestly why I just try to

1249
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,520
share the joy and, again, the abundance of

1250
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,260
this lifestyle, because for me I already know

1251
00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:17,480
that the way social media is going to

1252
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,360
break things down, they're going to show my

1253
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,100
content to the people that love it and

1254
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,320
they're going to show my content to the

1255
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,140
people that hate it.

1256
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,720
So I'm just looking to help sway somebody

1257
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,300
to just say you can help out the

1258
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:31,660
planet, you can help out yourself, you can

1259
00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:33,940
help out your health by a plant-based

1260
00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:34,280
diet.

1261
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,640
And check out...

1262
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Everyone's complaining how hot it is, and we

1263
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,040
don't get that much snow in Chicago anymore.

1264
00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:44,460
I remember when I came here in 2015

1265
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:46,160
there was like four months of snow.

1266
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,580
Last winter we had two days of snow,

1267
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Jane.

1268
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,180
It's Chicago, for the love of God!

1269
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:54,700
I agree with you, and again, that's why

1270
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,740
I started Unchained TV.

1271
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,900
So it's a vegan Netflix.

1272
00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:01,080
Okay, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

1273
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,340
I love Unchained TV.

1274
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,180
Unchained.

1275
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:04,340
Unchained TV.

1276
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:05,300
Your life will change.

1277
00:46:05,460 --> 00:46:06,460
It's just that easy.

1278
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,340
Unchained TV has all sorts of content for

1279
00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:09,780
everybody.

1280
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:12,220
Unchained TV changed my life.

1281
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,360
Unchained TV is crushing it.

1282
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:17,020
I love Unchained TV.

1283
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,020
Unchained TV is my go-to.

1284
00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:20,140
Unchained TV.

1285
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,140
Who knew?

1286
00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:23,080
Unchained, baby!

1287
00:46:29,170 --> 00:46:31,850
And you can just go to if you

1288
00:46:31,850 --> 00:46:33,710
want to go straight to the streaming network,

1289
00:46:33,970 --> 00:46:38,330
watch.unchainedtv.com We also have our website

1290
00:46:38,330 --> 00:46:41,370
hub, unchainedtv.com, either one.

1291
00:46:41,770 --> 00:46:44,310
And we also produce hundreds, even thousands of

1292
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:44,790
articles.

1293
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:47,470
And we have very exciting development to tell

1294
00:46:47,470 --> 00:46:50,330
you about that connects with Kale Crew.

1295
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:53,630
We have now launched on Fast Channels and

1296
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:57,270
this week we are going to start showing

1297
00:46:57,270 --> 00:47:01,430
Kale Crew on the Fast Channels and those

1298
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:04,070
are going to open this message up to

1299
00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:06,410
a whole new audience.

1300
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:08,990
So we're very excited about that.

1301
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:12,930
You guys are literally changing the world, saving

1302
00:47:12,930 --> 00:47:15,890
the world and I just have to say,

1303
00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:18,690
coming full circle back to when I met

1304
00:47:18,690 --> 00:47:20,970
you at a party, Nemanja, and I said,

1305
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:22,750
we were just talking and I said, oh,

1306
00:47:22,850 --> 00:47:24,330
Chicago, why don't you do a show in

1307
00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:24,690
Chicago?

1308
00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:27,790
And you were like, okay, and then like

1309
00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:29,750
two weeks later you have your first episode.

1310
00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:31,190
I was like, oh my God, I've never

1311
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:35,490
seen anybody move that fast and that efficiently

1312
00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:39,350
and you just keep churning out the episodes.

1313
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:42,490
I mean, what is your secret sauce?

1314
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:44,370
Because I would say I'll have what he's

1315
00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:44,670
having.

1316
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:49,090
One thing about Neiman, Neiman moves quick and

1317
00:47:49,770 --> 00:47:53,130
I'm excited about things and what I'm passionate

1318
00:47:53,130 --> 00:47:54,630
about like I just want to do.

1319
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:59,050
I have to tell people who watch already

1320
00:47:59,050 --> 00:48:01,190
all the episodes, the reasons to stay tuned.

1321
00:48:01,590 --> 00:48:03,190
It's going to be like a teeny tiny

1322
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:05,170
spoiler alert for what is coming.

1323
00:48:05,470 --> 00:48:07,030
But we're going to also have like a

1324
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:08,390
dessert ice cream episode.

1325
00:48:08,530 --> 00:48:10,150
It's going to be absolutely fabulous and it's

1326
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:11,510
coming out already this Friday.

1327
00:48:12,610 --> 00:48:15,690
Anyway, for the episode after that that still

1328
00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:18,390
has not been recorded but I have to

1329
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:20,690
say something because the caller previously said that

1330
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:24,090
long time ago in Chicago she barely had

1331
00:48:24,090 --> 00:48:24,730
any options.

1332
00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:27,410
Well, I also didn't know about this but

1333
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:30,750
the episode eight will be at the vegan

1334
00:48:30,750 --> 00:48:34,470
place in Chicago that's been existing for 40

1335
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:35,330
years.

1336
00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:35,970
What?

1337
00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:39,530
That's why I stay tuned on Unchained TV

1338
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:40,950
for the episode eight of a Kel Crew

1339
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:43,730
show because 40 years ago they didn't even

1340
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:46,370
have a vegan word established so they called

1341
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:47,590
it vegetarian restaurant.

1342
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:50,070
Even though it was 100% vegan, they

1343
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:52,470
just didn't know how to call it differently

1344
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:54,270
but they called it a vegetarian restaurant.

1345
00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:56,770
So I think vegetarian is still somewhere in

1346
00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:58,430
their name or they switched it to the

1347
00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:59,050
veg now.

1348
00:48:59,390 --> 00:49:01,750
But anyway, you're going to find out more

1349
00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:03,610
about this in an episode eight and I

1350
00:49:03,610 --> 00:49:05,310
just wanted to give like a little preview

1351
00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:07,790
so you guys can be excited about it

1352
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:10,030
and look forward to episodes to come.

1353
00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:11,970
Well, that's really exciting.

1354
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:13,730
It reminds me of when I was in

1355
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:17,950
Zurich and they said that the world's oldest

1356
00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:19,770
vegan restaurant existed.

1357
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:21,190
The world's oldest vegetarian.

1358
00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:24,930
And I went there and it was a

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00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:27,130
buffet style restaurant.

1360
00:49:27,450 --> 00:49:28,630
That's what it is.

1361
00:49:29,930 --> 00:49:31,930
It was almost 100% vegan.

1362
00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:33,490
In fact, I didn't see anything that wasn't

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00:49:33,490 --> 00:49:33,810
vegan.

1364
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:36,830
They called it vegetarian but that was one

1365
00:49:36,830 --> 00:49:40,290
of the highlights of my life, honestly.

1366
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:42,910
Because I'm trying to remember the name of

1367
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:44,350
it but I was like, really?

1368
00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:45,290
The world's oldest?

1369
00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:47,130
And I went there and it was just

1370
00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:47,990
like magical.

1371
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:50,230
It was like when I saw Santa Claus

1372
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:51,630
for the first time, you know?

1373
00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:54,390
I just had that feeling of like, wow!

1374
00:49:55,150 --> 00:49:56,110
So, oh!

1375
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:58,370
This is so very exciting.

1376
00:49:58,790 --> 00:50:00,270
We've got another caller.

1377
00:50:00,690 --> 00:50:02,110
Annie in Sherman Oaks.

1378
00:50:02,110 --> 00:50:04,030
Your question or thought for the stars of

1379
00:50:04,030 --> 00:50:05,650
Kale Crew on Unchained TV.

1380
00:50:06,930 --> 00:50:08,210
Oh my goodness!

1381
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:09,850
Thank you for having my call, Jane.

1382
00:50:09,930 --> 00:50:10,650
Oh my goodness!

1383
00:50:10,770 --> 00:50:12,350
I'm so excited to be here with you

1384
00:50:12,350 --> 00:50:12,550
guys.

1385
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:15,830
Your energy is so, oh my god!

1386
00:50:15,890 --> 00:50:16,730
I love it.

1387
00:50:17,090 --> 00:50:20,590
It just gets through everybody, through the channels

1388
00:50:20,590 --> 00:50:21,130
and everything.

1389
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:22,410
I've been sharing like crazy.

1390
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:24,370
I love your energy.

1391
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:27,290
How did you two get together and make

1392
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,190
this happen?

1393
00:50:28,570 --> 00:50:29,910
This is so beautiful.

1394
00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:32,370
What you're doing is incredible work.

1395
00:50:32,650 --> 00:50:34,590
I love everything you're doing and I can

1396
00:50:34,590 --> 00:50:36,310
hardly wait for us to come there.

1397
00:50:37,370 --> 00:50:38,330
Let's do it!

1398
00:50:38,570 --> 00:50:39,110
Road trip!

1399
00:50:39,730 --> 00:50:40,170
We're on!

1400
00:50:43,350 --> 00:50:44,310
I can't wait.

1401
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:45,110
I can't wait.

1402
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:47,370
Okay, thanks Annie.

1403
00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:48,310
Go ahead.

1404
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:51,110
Mika and I met inside of Kale My

1405
00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:51,410
Name.

1406
00:50:52,330 --> 00:50:55,130
She was previously a guest of Kale My

1407
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:56,270
Name where we didn't meet.

1408
00:50:56,430 --> 00:50:57,430
She was sitting on the patio.

1409
00:50:57,570 --> 00:50:59,430
I was not there, but like I know

1410
00:50:59,430 --> 00:51:01,410
she had some pictures from it.

1411
00:51:01,410 --> 00:51:04,990
It was one of her friends' birthday party.

1412
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:07,830
Jane, when I tell you, they showed up.

1413
00:51:08,370 --> 00:51:10,950
It was really a ball for them.

1414
00:51:11,050 --> 00:51:11,970
They dressed up.

1415
00:51:12,130 --> 00:51:13,150
They looked so good.

1416
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:16,030
They booked our fabulous tea party at Kale

1417
00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:16,490
My Name.

1418
00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:18,330
I don't know if you know that Kale

1419
00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:19,550
My Name does tea parties.

1420
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:22,030
You can dress up, put a tea party

1421
00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:22,350
hat.

1422
00:51:22,450 --> 00:51:23,510
There's a whole tower.

1423
00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:26,970
I've been there and I just stared at

1424
00:51:26,970 --> 00:51:27,190
them.

1425
00:51:27,290 --> 00:51:28,730
I was like, they're so beautiful.

1426
00:51:28,910 --> 00:51:30,230
I'm going to drop a picture.

1427
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:32,010
I have to put this on our Instagram

1428
00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:34,350
so people see how fabulous our guests are.

1429
00:51:35,290 --> 00:51:36,290
That's how we met.

1430
00:51:36,370 --> 00:51:37,170
We just clicked.

1431
00:51:37,410 --> 00:51:39,850
We switched social media handles.

1432
00:51:41,950 --> 00:51:45,170
Then later on, visit by visit at Kale

1433
00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:47,890
My Name, we started even working together because

1434
00:51:47,890 --> 00:51:50,130
Tamika promotes all of these places.

1435
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:52,670
I wanted us to do a little business

1436
00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:53,050
together.

1437
00:51:53,330 --> 00:51:55,290
I invited her to come and create some

1438
00:51:55,290 --> 00:51:57,290
super exciting reels from Kale My Name, which

1439
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:57,730
she did.

1440
00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:00,110
They were really, really, really good.

1441
00:52:00,590 --> 00:52:02,450
Then we just started talking a lot.

1442
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:05,930
I think our friendship really turned into friendship,

1443
00:52:06,070 --> 00:52:08,290
friendship, where we came to the idea to

1444
00:52:08,290 --> 00:52:10,170
visit Atlanta together for food.

1445
00:52:10,430 --> 00:52:13,650
We went to Atlanta and ate at five

1446
00:52:13,650 --> 00:52:14,430
restaurants a day.

1447
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:15,870
What?

1448
00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:20,550
How do you keep that girlish figure?

1449
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:25,710
Listen, it's a vegan food.

1450
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:28,210
It's a vegan food.

1451
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:30,230
We walk a lot.

1452
00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:32,290
We walked a lot and we got wet

1453
00:52:32,290 --> 00:52:33,130
because it rained.

1454
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:35,870
We were running at that point.

1455
00:52:36,170 --> 00:52:37,630
Maybe we ran.

1456
00:52:38,850 --> 00:52:41,810
I think the thing I like the most

1457
00:52:41,810 --> 00:52:44,010
about your show, if I had to summarise

1458
00:52:44,010 --> 00:52:47,970
it, is that you make veganism so fun.

1459
00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:49,670
It is so fun.

1460
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:51,830
You're not just putting it on.

1461
00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:55,750
I would say my worst day as a

1462
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:59,610
vegan is better than my best day as

1463
00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:00,770
an omnivore.

1464
00:53:01,450 --> 00:53:03,590
I have a certain joy.

1465
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:06,390
We just also launched a new show called

1466
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:07,330
Doctor Moms.

1467
00:53:07,570 --> 00:53:11,750
It explains that your serotonin levels are determined

1468
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:12,970
by your gut biome.

1469
00:53:13,390 --> 00:53:15,530
Your gut biome is determined by what you

1470
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:15,890
eat.

1471
00:53:16,290 --> 00:53:18,990
All these people who are taking antidepressants, if

1472
00:53:18,990 --> 00:53:21,170
they switch to a plant-based diet, I

1473
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:22,850
think they might do better, Tameka.

1474
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:24,750
It could definitely help.

1475
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:27,730
We need an adequate amount of sunlight.

1476
00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:29,770
We need to be one with nature.

1477
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:31,570
That includes plants.

1478
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:32,550
It really, really does.

1479
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:36,330
I remember when I was an omnivore and

1480
00:53:36,330 --> 00:53:38,630
I just loved burgers and pizza and all

1481
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:39,170
that kind of stuff.

1482
00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:42,370
I remember every time I would eat, every

1483
00:53:42,370 --> 00:53:44,210
single time, I would feel like I had

1484
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:45,710
to go to sleep, like I needed to

1485
00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:46,250
take a nap.

1486
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:48,350
That is not the case anymore.

1487
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:52,210
I would have went plant-based sooner if

1488
00:53:52,210 --> 00:53:54,330
I would have known that the energy was

1489
00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:56,190
just going to shoot through the roof.

1490
00:53:56,330 --> 00:53:58,830
At this point, being in my 40s, I'm

1491
00:53:58,830 --> 00:54:00,570
just like, I need every drop of energy

1492
00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:02,630
now, especially for all these goals and dreams.

1493
00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:04,750
I'm so happy to be plant-based.

1494
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:06,670
Oh my gosh, yes.

1495
00:54:07,690 --> 00:54:09,130
First of all, I think there's going to

1496
00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:10,550
be a whole group and they want to

1497
00:54:10,550 --> 00:54:11,730
know when we're going.

1498
00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:14,990
I think early September might be a good

1499
00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:16,830
time to go to Chicago, right?

1500
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:19,230
That could easily be a good time for

1501
00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:19,670
Chicago.

1502
00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:21,830
There might be something fun for the Kale

1503
00:54:21,830 --> 00:54:22,990
Crew show, but you're going to have to

1504
00:54:22,990 --> 00:54:23,590
stay tuned.

1505
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:27,250
Make sure to follow both Samika and KaleMyName

1506
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:29,230
on Instagram, so you'll be informed of all

1507
00:54:29,230 --> 00:54:30,990
the fun things that are coming your way.

1508
00:54:31,290 --> 00:54:33,170
Somebody says Chicago Diner.

1509
00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:35,090
Does this have any meaning for you?

1510
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:36,970
I know what they're saying.

1511
00:54:37,050 --> 00:54:41,610
I know what they're saying, but just watch

1512
00:54:41,610 --> 00:54:42,290
Kale Crew.

1513
00:54:43,310 --> 00:54:44,150
All right.

1514
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:45,590
I am so excited.

1515
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:50,250
I literally have to say that this is

1516
00:54:50,250 --> 00:54:54,270
beyond my wildest expectations because you know what?

1517
00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:56,190
It's not easy putting together a show.

1518
00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:59,950
Let's give a shout out to Dajon, your

1519
00:54:59,950 --> 00:55:03,830
incredible videographer, editor who's done such a great

1520
00:55:03,830 --> 00:55:04,350
job.

1521
00:55:04,750 --> 00:55:05,970
It's a team effort.

1522
00:55:06,410 --> 00:55:09,050
Let me say that everybody is, I mean,

1523
00:55:09,130 --> 00:55:10,950
Nemanja and Tamika are volunteers.

1524
00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:11,990
I'm a volunteer.

1525
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:13,150
None of us get paid.

1526
00:55:13,530 --> 00:55:15,790
We are here doing this to spread the

1527
00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:16,110
word.

1528
00:55:16,410 --> 00:55:19,010
I just want to say that people go,

1529
00:55:19,450 --> 00:55:19,550
really?

1530
00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:21,230
Aren't you monetising?

1531
00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:22,230
I go, you know what?

1532
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:24,610
Money isn't going to mean that much if

1533
00:55:24,610 --> 00:55:27,130
we walk outside and can't walk a block

1534
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:29,610
without collapsing because of the heat.

1535
00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:32,250
Money isn't going to mean that much if

1536
00:55:33,090 --> 00:55:35,690
our houses are destroyed or, as is happening

1537
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:38,250
in California now, insurance companies don't want to

1538
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:42,370
insure because there's so much risk involved.

1539
00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:47,530
While I'm nothing against money, We love money.

1540
00:55:47,850 --> 00:55:49,770
Yeah, we love money, but the point is

1541
00:55:49,770 --> 00:55:52,870
that this is a passion project and we

1542
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:55,830
all share the same passion is to wake

1543
00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:57,010
people up.

1544
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:59,530
We are pretty much out of time.

1545
00:56:00,050 --> 00:56:01,870
Ten seconds from each of you and then

1546
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:03,150
we're going to call it a day.

1547
00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:03,970
Tamika?

1548
00:56:04,330 --> 00:56:05,930
I just want to say thanks so much

1549
00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:07,970
for having me and I really appreciate everybody

1550
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:10,790
that tuned in and engaged with us and

1551
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:13,050
also, Jane, I want you to know and

1552
00:56:13,050 --> 00:56:14,590
Neiman, I want you to know that the

1553
00:56:14,590 --> 00:56:18,050
money is coming because we're doing this as

1554
00:56:18,050 --> 00:56:20,810
a passion and a love and the content

1555
00:56:20,810 --> 00:56:23,250
is just so, so just awesome.

1556
00:56:23,410 --> 00:56:24,150
You can feel it.

1557
00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:25,510
You can feel the genuineness.

1558
00:56:25,630 --> 00:56:26,710
So I just want to say thank you

1559
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:27,350
all so much.

1560
00:56:27,710 --> 00:56:29,910
Well, we thank you for your participation.

1561
00:56:30,730 --> 00:56:31,910
Namasha, ten seconds.

1562
00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:34,950
Thank you, Jane, for just taking a chance

1563
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:35,290
with us.

1564
00:56:35,370 --> 00:56:37,050
Thank you, Tamika, for saying yes to me.

1565
00:56:37,150 --> 00:56:39,690
Thank you, Diane, for our videographer and editor

1566
00:56:39,690 --> 00:56:42,490
and thank you, Hungry Chaos, for tuning in

1567
00:56:42,490 --> 00:56:44,630
from episode to episode and making our show

1568
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:47,630
the number one must-watch show on Unchained

1569
00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:47,750
TV.

1570
00:56:47,770 --> 00:56:49,970
It is exciting!

1571
00:56:51,070 --> 00:56:51,570
Woo-hoo!

1572
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:56,070
We want to say come back next time.

1573
00:56:56,430 --> 00:56:59,830
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1574
00:56:59,830 --> 00:57:00,310
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1575
00:57:04,340 --> 00:57:08,240
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1576
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:11,340
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1577
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:14,280
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1579
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