UnchainedTV: Will Huge Animal Factories Be Banned?

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And we have breaking news to tell you

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about today.

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It is making headlines all across the nation.

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These are the experts who will be talking

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about it.

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You could call it the showdown in Sonoma.

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There are just some of the headlines and

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wow, it will be a showdown.

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An historic ballot measure is coming up after

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more than 37,000 signatures were collected in

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this rural northern California county to ban large

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CAFOs, concentrated animal feeding operations.

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The coalition to end factory farming has handed

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in the votes and now it is up

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to the voters to decide.

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So let's go straight out to Samantha Fay.

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You are one of the leaders of this.

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First of all, 37,000 signatures.

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Wow, that's a lot to collect.

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Tell us how you did it and what

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is this ballot measure for those who have

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no idea?

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This ballot measure is to ban CAFOs in

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Sonoma County.

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So there are about two dozen CAFOs in

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Sonoma County and we plan to phase them

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out through this ballot measure.

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The only way that we got all of

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these signatures, the 37,000 signatures, is simply

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through the power of volunteers.

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A lot of other measures and political organisations

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will hire people to collect signatures, but every

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single one of our 150 volunteers was unpaid

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and came of their own accord to Sonoma

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County and from Sonoma County to collect these

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signatures.

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Now, you have done a lot of social

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media promotion on this.

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Let's take a look at one of your

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promos and then we'll dissect it.

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Maybe not a good choice of words.

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Again, this is the showdown in Sonoma, an

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historic ballot measure.

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We are getting ready to ban factory farms

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in Sonoma County.

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Despite the local Farm Bureau spreading misinformation to

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turn the public against this effort, we are

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turning in over 37,000 signatures from Sonoma

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County residents to get this factory farm ban

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on the ballot.

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If this historic initiative succeeds, it would stop

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the exploitation and abuse for hundreds of thousands

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of animals and have potentially national implications.

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So let's do this.

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So Cassie King, you are the lead communications

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person for Direct Action Everywhere.

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A lot of the Farm Bureau spokespeople are

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saying this is going to put a lot

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of people out of work.

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What is your response to that?

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Thanks so much for having us on, Jane.

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We are DXCS of Bay Area is one

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of the founding members of the Coalition to

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End Factory Farming, which is the ballot committee

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leading this initiative, just for some context.

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And like Samantha said, there are an estimated

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two dozen CAFOs in Sonoma County, and that

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is an overestimation because we want to be

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transparent and we want to give an understanding

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of the maximum impact that this initiative could

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have.

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So it's possibly closer to 20 or so

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facilities that actually meet the EPA's definition of

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a CAFO.

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And while these are the facilities that have

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the most animals, because that's what makes them

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a CAFO, is the number of animals that

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they have, the large CAFO category specifically, which

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is what we see in Sonoma County, is

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purely based on the number of animals.

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You might think that they have the most

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employees as well, but actually factory farming is

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quite mechanised.

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The feed comes in, the water comes in

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automated.

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The manure is falling through cages or falling

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through wire floors and going out of these

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chicken and duck facilities.

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So even though there are far more animals

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confined inside CAFOs in Sonoma County than the

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small animal farms that exist there, they actually

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have far fewer workers.

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And also Sonoma County, the vast majority of

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workers in agriculture are actually working in vineyards.

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Sonoma County is quite well known for grapes,

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for wine and the wine production there.

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And that's not impacted at all because we're

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specifically looking at animal operations, concentrated animal feeding

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operations.

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And by the way, we're happy to have

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anybody on from the other side.

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We would love to sponsor a debate here

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on Unchained TV.

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So consider it an invitation.

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We've got some callers lining up.

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Paige in Los Angeles, your question and thought

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for our team under the banner Coalition to

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Ban Factory Farming.

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Thank you for taking my call.

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Here's what I'm curious about.

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In your outreach, what were some of the

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responses from the citizens in the area in

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regards to knowing that animals were in these

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factory farms that were their burgers and their

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hot dogs and so forth?

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What was the response you were getting and

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how did they get a connection to sign

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that paper?

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Well, it's an excellent question, Sarah.

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You're from the area.

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When signatures were being collected, what was the

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response amongst the people?

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Because those opposing say, well, it's going to

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be bad for the county.

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But you got 37,000, more than 37

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,000 people who live in that county, as

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I believe you do, to sign.

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So what were their reasons for signing?

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What do you think the mood of the

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county is?

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Well, thanks for the great question.

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Yeah.

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In my experience with voters, one of the

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first things that I noted is that folks

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weren't really even aware that we had factory

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farms here in Sonoma County.

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And I think that was the same thing

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was true for myself even just three years

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ago.

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So people are shocked because most people have

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this kind of idea of what a factory

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farm is.

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They picture something in their mind.

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And they definitely don't associate that with Sonoma

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County because we have so many, you know,

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fields and lovely scenes around here, rolling fields

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of green and you see cows dotting the

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And it's kind of a shock.

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So first people are in a Yeah, I

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do remember seeing some of those, those buildings,

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those long buildings, you know, where how the

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animals are, and then it all starts to

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click.

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And there's this moment that I witnessed and

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so many people when it clicked, and they're

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like, Oh, my gosh, yes, that is what's

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happening here.

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I can't stand factory farms.

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I've heard that so many times.

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I hate factory farms.

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I can't stand factory farms.

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They're awful.

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Yes, I support this.

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So that was kind of a general theme

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is just, you know, when people realise what

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it is you're talking about.

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They are on board because they care about

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animal welfare and our environment here.

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So the stereotypical description of people who support

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this by the opponents is you're extremists, but

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37,000 people living in your county can't

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be extremists.

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What you're saying is that when they start

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thinking about what this really is, these giant

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concentrated animal feeding operations that house collectively, there's

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two dozen of them approximately about what I

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believe you'd say 9 million animals in a

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dozen farms.

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Is that correct, Samantha?

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Um, actually, Cassie would be able to answer

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that question a little bit better than I

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Go ahead.

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Sure.

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So like I said, the estimation is around

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two dozen, but we are overestimating.

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So it's possible that some of those facilities

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are are have downsized since the most recent

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report to the USDA or the water boards.

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But yes, about 2.9 million animals across

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just two dozen facilities, which is far more

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than, you know, the next 50 farms below

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them have because they're just such outliers with

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the number of animals that are confined.

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So yeah, 2.9 million animals, including chickens,

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ducks and cows across just about two dozen

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facilities.

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And in some of the articles I read,

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there were small farmers who were in favour

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of this saying that the big CAFOs are

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pushing them out of business.

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We've got so many callers lined up.

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Let's hit them now.

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Michael in Los Angeles, your question or thought

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for our panel.

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Oh, hi.

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First of all, I want to thank everyone,

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all the volunteers that got the signatures because

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I know how hard that is to get

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people to sign things.

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So I was wondering, what do you guys

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think about the general mood of the like

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the local politicians that represent your area?

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Do you think that they'll be responsive to

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this, you know, this proposition and you'd be

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able to get maybe endorsements for it?

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Thank you.

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Samantha, what are your thoughts?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think that personally and privately, there is

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probably a majority of local politicians and elected

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officials that do, in fact, agree with this

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measure.

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Unfortunately, the Sonoma County Farm Bureau does have

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a lot of sway within the local governmental

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system.

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But I think that the Farm Bureau's extremist

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reaction to our measure is absolutely driving a

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wedge between them and the local politicians.

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We're really looking forward to getting endorsements.

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And we have been privately thanked and congratulated

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by specific elected officials within Sonoma County.

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But once we start to address a little

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bit more of the Farm Bureau's concerns, and

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we're very excited to have some events like

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that coming up.

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Once we address the Farm Bureau's concerns, I

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absolutely believe that more elected officials will come

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out in support of this ballot measure due

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to the almost outright falsehoods that the Farm

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Bureau has been spreading.

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And if I can add one update to

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that.

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Yeah, because just yesterday, the Sonoma County Board

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of Supervisors had this on their agenda for

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their meeting, because that's the process that the

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signatures are verified by the registrar of voters.

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And then they head to the Board of

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Supervisors to decide either about enacting it immediately,

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which would be great.

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It would save a lot of time for

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everybody and the cost of the election.

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But they're not going to be doing that.

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It is controversial, and they're going to put

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it to a vote.

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But they also have the option of commissioning

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a study from county agencies on the impact

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of this initiative, which they have decided to

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do.

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That's what they decided at their meeting yesterday,

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which you might think that that's not great

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news.

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But I'm actually hopeful that that will be

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helpful, because there's a lot of confusion with

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the misinformation the Farm Bureau is spreading about

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how many facilities there are in Sonoma County

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that meet the definition of a CAFO and

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what exactly, you know, all the great questions

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about how many animals this will impact, how

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many workers this will impact.

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And I think the information is important for

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people to know and will ultimately be helpful.

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I mean, there's a lot of great conversations

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to be had.

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There's also an important part in the CAFO

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initiative text about funding the transition for workers.

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And that should be mentioned in this study.

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And there should be more transparency around what

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this will actually look like if it passes.

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So we'll keep people posted.

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This study is not going to preempt it

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being on the ballot, though.

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No, definitely not.

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It's still going to be on the ballot.

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Okay, that's important.

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And I think it's very important to find

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out exactly how many workers would be affected.

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Because you're saying that, hey, they have these

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hundreds of thousands of animals, collectively, approximately two

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dozen or less concentrated animal feeding operations with

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almost 3 million animals.

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How many people are watching them?

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If it turns out that it's not very

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many, that says a lot in itself.

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I've got two dogs and a cat, and

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it's a full time job.

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Can you imagine hundreds of thousands of animals?

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And that is one of the major reasons

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why critics say these animals start suffering if

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they can't reach the water, if they break

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a limb, if they're on their backs, they

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can't turn around.

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Because who's there to pick them up?

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Who's there to give them the water?

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These are important questions that need to be

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decided.

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We've got more callers lined up, Nilo Farr

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in Dallas, Texas.

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Your question or thought for our panel.

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Hi, you needed 30,000 or 6%

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signatures of registered voters in Sonoma County, assuming

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a population of half a million.

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However, you got 7%, 37,000, which is

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huge.

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Was the support primarily from urban centres or

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rural areas?

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Yeah, tell us about the people who signed,

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Samantha.

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What were your observations?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Thank you for your question.

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We were definitely based in more urban centres,

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but as a resident of Sonoma County, I

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can tell you that the definition of urban

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centre is not necessarily what people would be

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thinking.

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We posted up mainly at grocery stores and

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other places that there would be community gatherings.

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And it was the places that there were

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small community gatherings outside of the metropolitan area

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of Santa Rosa and Petaluma that were actually

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super supportive.

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People in the rural areas wanted to have

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a conversation with us.

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People in the rural areas wanted to find

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out more about us as an individual, as

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opposed to an organisation.

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And so there was a lot of support

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from the people in the population centres.

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They would come up and ask just a

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few questions about the measure and things like

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that.

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But the people in the more rural areas

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were definitely more interested in developing a relationship

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and staying in touch with us.

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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I will say, just looking at some of

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the comments, it made me realise that just

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having these conversations with 37,000 people is

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a tremendous victory in itself.

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As I believe you mentioned, Sarah, a lot

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of these people weren't even aware that there

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were factory farms in the area.

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They're not like right out on the corner.

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And you yourself said you were not aware.

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Tell us about your personal evolution, Sarah, as

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somebody who lives there, who said just a

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few years ago, you had no idea any

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of this was going on.

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Yeah.

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So it's kind of a funny story.

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I was actually a little bit hypervigilant about

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wildfires back in the years that we were

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having back-to-back wildfires from about 2017

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to 2020.

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And I saw a plume of smoke on

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the horizon.

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So I went on a wildfire camera to

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try to figure out where it is.

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And somehow, looking at the satellite view, I

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noticed it was across the field from something

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called a Riker, oh, sorry, a duck farm.

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So I don't want to name any names,

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but I just did.

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I apologise.

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But I wondered what it was.

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And so I started looking it up and

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I thought, well, hmm, that looks like something

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kind of unusual.

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It was a lot of long, thin buildings

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that I could see from the satellite view,

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but I didn't see any animals outside.

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So I thought that kind of looks like

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what in my mind, I thought a factory

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farm would look like.

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And so I started searching online for that.

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And in the process, what I found were

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the videos you're actually broadcasting right now.

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And I just want to say these videos

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are courtesy of Direct Action Everywhere.

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There is a legal case that is a

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backstory to this as well, which we'll get

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to in a second.

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But these are some of the undercover videos

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that were taken by Direct Action Everywhere, which

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correct me if I'm wrong, Cassie, were handed

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in to the Sonoma County prosecutor demanding prosecution.

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And there was a refusal to prosecute what

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this video shows as evidence of animal cruelty.

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Go ahead.

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And by the way, I will say we

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invite anybody from any factory farm, anybody who

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wants to talk about this in Sonoma County,

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you are invited on Shane TV, we'd love

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to dialogue with you.

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Continue on.

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Sarah.

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Yeah, so in my search, I found those

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videos.

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And then I found DxE.

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And I was just really, really intrigued.

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And that sort of began my journey on

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animal rights activism.

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I'd had an experience back in the early

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90s, where I had found a duck that

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was tangled in fishing wire at Stinson Beach

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in here in Northern California.

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And I couldn't help the duck.

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And I didn't know about animal rescue and

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things like that.

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Then I really just had no clue what

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to do.

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And it haunted me all these years that

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I couldn't help this poor duck that was

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clearly dying.

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And I'm sure it did perish.

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Its beak was ripped off.

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And anyway, so it was just one of

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those moments where you have a pivotal moment

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in your life.

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And the path became clear.

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And so I started getting more involved.

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And now I'm the co-founder of a

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local organisation called FACES of Sonoma County.

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And that stands for Farm, Animal, Climate, and

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Environmental Stewards.

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And we're basically trying to raise awareness about

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the impacts of factory farming on the animals,

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the environment, and the climate.

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That's our main thing.

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And also public health and safety.

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We have a lot of issues going on

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around that.

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And worker safety.

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But one of our main focusses right now

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is supporting this ballot measure as a founding

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partner of the coalition.

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So when opponents of this measure say, oh,

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it's a bunch of extremists, and you're one

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of the leaders, would you consider yourself an

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extremist?

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I am extremely compassionate.

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I love that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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I want to get to a comment that

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was made on social media here.

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And I'm going to look for it right

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now.

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I'm going to hit Cassie with this one.

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Is DXC promoting reduce and buy local humane

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free range instead?

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What would they say when people ask, where

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should we buy from?

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I'll just let you take that one, Cassie.

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Yeah, thanks, Leah.

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That's a great question.

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It's really interesting to be working with so

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many different groups in the coalition, because we

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all are coming to this point of wanting

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to oppose CAFOs for various different reasons.

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There are environmental law firms and labour rights

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groups and local businesses in Sonoma County, restaurants

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and small animal producers who are signed on

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to the coalition to end factory farming.

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So we certainly don't all agree on what

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exactly the vision is of 10 years from

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now, 20 years from now in Sonoma County,

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in California and the world.

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But we do all agree.

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And I think that shows that this isn't

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an extreme ask.

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It's something most people agree with when they

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are given the facts on stopping large CAFOs,

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on stopping these facilities that disproportionately harm our

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environment, pollute the water and the air, harm

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animals, harm workers, and pose a huge risk

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to public health.

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So we're really focussing on those facts, on

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those statistics and examples within the county right

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now, because that's something we all agree on.

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I think if you were to reach out

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to different members of the coalition, you'd get

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some different answers on what they would suggest

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we replace those facilities with.

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But honestly, there are small animal producers on

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the coalition because they think that they're doing

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it better and they want the opportunity to

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compete.

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And right now they really struggle to compete

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when there are a few small players that

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dominate the industry.

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We've got, sorry to cover you down there,

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but we've got this, Curtis Anthony.

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The fact that there is this much controversy

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and press on the measure already is a

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win in and of itself.

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This is said to be the single most

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politically charged ballot measure in the history of

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the county and has the opportunity to draw

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national attention, time to knock on doors and

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hit the phones.

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Let's get after it.

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Your thoughts on that comment by Curtis Anthony,

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Samantha Faye.

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Thank you, Curtis, for your comment.

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I absolutely agree with you.

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The amount of press and the amount of

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attention that this ballot measure has gained clearly

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shows that the opposition is afraid of the

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impact of this ballot measure, even while not

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understanding, truly not understanding the impact of this

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ballot measure.

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And I completely echo your sentiments that it's

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time to get on the phones.

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It's time to knock doors.

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It's time to join community events and really

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get the word out about this ballot measure

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because there has been so much controversy that

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is led entirely by falsehoods from the Farm

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Bureau.

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So follow up, what is your promotion plan

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to get voters on board with this?

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What kind of campaign are you planning?

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And I think that goes back to Samantha,

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right?

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Sure.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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We have a very traditional campaign that's being

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run right now.

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We're really looking into getting door knockers.

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We're looking into getting yard signs and all

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of these other things.

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But we also are running an untraditional campaign

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in the way that we're reaching out individually

549
00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:26,380
on a one-to-one level with organisations

550
00:21:26,380 --> 00:21:31,000
that actually would, in another world, be opposed

551
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,760
to our ballot measure.

552
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,480
Like Cassie was saying, and like Sarah was

553
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,820
saying, we have small animal farmers on our

554
00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:39,080
coalition with us, which I think is honestly

555
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:39,780
really incredible.

556
00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:43,900
When we're trying to pass legislation about banning

557
00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:46,620
fracking and stuff, we don't get other oil

558
00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:48,620
companies to sign on to these ballot measures,

559
00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:50,440
or yeah, to sign on to these measures.

560
00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:53,160
So I think that it's traditional in some

561
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,000
ways and untraditional in others.

562
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:55,980
Yeah.

563
00:21:56,060 --> 00:21:59,120
And we've got Leah saying, that's a disappointing

564
00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,480
answer.

565
00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:00,880
Small animal farmers are better.

566
00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:01,720
No, they're not.

567
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,040
What I will say to that is everything

568
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,540
in life is a process.

569
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,020
Few big changes are events.

570
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,660
And a process is a whole bunch of

571
00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:15,280
steps.

572
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,280
And so it's sometimes magical thinking to think

573
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,900
that everything is just going to change like

574
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:22,660
that at once.

575
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,020
And also, just speaking in general for the

576
00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:28,980
movement of Compassionate Animals, we don't want to

577
00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:29,900
be an exclusive club.

578
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,540
We want to get as many people in

579
00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:36,820
and give them the opportunity to evolve on

580
00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:37,460
this subject.

581
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,460
That's just my personal opinion.

582
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840
But I want to talk a little bit

583
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,000
about the backstory that certainly this is breaking

584
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,160
news, it's making headlines.

585
00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:56,400
CBS News, a lot of other major publications

586
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,940
are talking about the measure seeking to limit

587
00:22:58,940 --> 00:23:01,200
the size of Sonoma County livestock and poultry

588
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,440
farms qualifying for the ballot to be decided

589
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,880
by the voters in November.

590
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,420
There was a trial in this same county

591
00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:16,600
and the co-founder of Direct Action Everywhere,

592
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040
the leader in the Open Rescue Movement, Wayne

593
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,820
Chung, was prosecuted and convicted.

594
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240
And I just want to play a little

595
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,340
clip of him talking about just some aspects

596
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:32,440
of the case.

597
00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:34,600
He was gagged, but he did speak into

598
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,580
a camera sometimes in the back of a

599
00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:39,540
car to try to get his position out

600
00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:40,440
during the trial.

601
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,060
Hundreds of activists walked into factory farms and

602
00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:45,940
slaughterhouses, gave aid to animals, even locked their

603
00:23:45,940 --> 00:23:47,920
necks in the slaughter line to prevent animals

604
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,460
from drowning in scalded water.

605
00:23:49,660 --> 00:23:51,240
But I personally did not touch a single

606
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,440
animal.

607
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,160
I personally did not touch a single part

608
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,580
of the slaughterhouse machinery.

609
00:23:56,020 --> 00:23:58,840
Instead, I'm being charged for conspiring with others

610
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,960
who allegedly did.

611
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,380
But all the prosecution's evidence involves speech.

612
00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:04,500
They've asked questions of our witnesses, such as,

613
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,280
are you vegan?

614
00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:06,540
Are you Wayne Chung's friend?

615
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:08,520
Have you organised vigils for Wayne Chung?

616
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,980
But all those things are crimes.

617
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,980
There are multiple cases in California recently, including

618
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:14,040
a case called People vs.

619
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:16,540
Berziceana and another case called People vs.

620
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:16,820
Aware.

621
00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:19,680
Only that you do not know that what

622
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,440
you're doing is a crime.

623
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,380
So, for example, if you're live streaming and

624
00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:24,620
engaging in first amendment activity, and if your

625
00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:27,400
involvement in a crime is just cheerleading, for

626
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,120
example, giving a speech or a multi-individual,

627
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,220
you can't be liable for a felony conspiracy.

628
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,140
So we'll be testing in court tomorrow.

629
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,480
It's not just animal rights, a free speech.

630
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,600
All right, but he was convicted.

631
00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:42,580
So let's put this ballot measure in the

632
00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:45,440
context of what's been happening in Sonoma County.

633
00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:46,860
He was convicted.

634
00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:48,440
He served a very short time.

635
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:50,760
He was then released.

636
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,880
Happy to say that Unchained TV covered all

637
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,300
of it.

638
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,740
We were the only news organisation to be

639
00:24:56,740 --> 00:25:00,080
live from the beginning to the end of

640
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,400
the trial and his release after serving time.

641
00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:08,900
So Cassie, as a lead communications for Direct

642
00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,900
Action Everywhere, put this into perspective.

643
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,120
There is a lot happening in the animal

644
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,580
rights movement in Sonoma County.

645
00:25:17,740 --> 00:25:19,220
There are a lot of groups.

646
00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:20,660
There are a lot of strategies.

647
00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:21,940
This is part of it.

648
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,620
And I will say the first thing that

649
00:25:23,620 --> 00:25:26,060
Wayne did after he was released from spending

650
00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:28,340
several weeks in jail was go out and

651
00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:30,660
collect signatures to get this factory farm ban

652
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:31,320
on the ballot.

653
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,060
So, you know, we can be members of

654
00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:37,320
different groups and support in different ways.

655
00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:39,900
And while Wayne participates in Open Rescue, he

656
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:41,000
can also collect signatures.

657
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,160
And I've helped collect some of these signatures

658
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,700
myself and definitely had on some occasions, people

659
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,080
ask, you know, is this related to the

660
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,280
trial that just happened?

661
00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:52,340
And I could talk to people and say,

662
00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:55,040
well, in some ways it's related because that,

663
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,940
you know, those people, including myself, who was

664
00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:00,660
originally in the case and they dismissed my

665
00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:02,920
charges at the last minute on the first

666
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,120
day of trial, you know, we're facing prosecution

667
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,640
for bringing public attention to what's happening in

668
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,240
these CAFOs, like the facilities that were involved

669
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200
in this trial, which again, you're playing footage

670
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,900
from one of them.

671
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,260
This footage wouldn't have even made its way

672
00:26:19,260 --> 00:26:22,560
to people like Sarah and Sam if Direct

673
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,020
Action Everywhere investigators hadn't released it.

674
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:27,600
So it's part of the puzzle of what's

675
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,940
happening.

676
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:30,420
And it's one important part is getting the

677
00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:32,760
investigatory footage out there and the stories of

678
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,520
rescued animals.

679
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,280
And I'm hopeful that that part of what's

680
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,740
unfolding in Sonoma can assist the ballot measure.

681
00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:41,620
I think it can certainly go both ways

682
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:44,060
if people want to call it extreme or

683
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:44,440
radical.

684
00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:46,120
But I also think that when they see

685
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,540
this footage and when they recognise what's happening

686
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:50,600
behind the closed doors of these facilities that

687
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,960
they might not even realise exist in their

688
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,320
county, that they're going to think that what's

689
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520
happening to animals is pretty extreme as well.

690
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,080
And, you know, I just want to do

691
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,540
the timeline so that people understand who are

692
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:04,960
watching.

693
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:09,440
There was these undercover investigations.

694
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,400
There are laws in California, anti-cruelty laws,

695
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:15,320
and Direct Action Everywhere maintains that they're being

696
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,440
violated because, well, the condition of some of

697
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,860
these animals speaks for itself.

698
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,320
And they took the video, they went in,

699
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,240
undercover investigation, took video, and then took the

700
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,200
video to prosecutors and said, prosecute this.

701
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,960
And the prosecutors in this county refused to

702
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,600
prosecute.

703
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Then after that, and correct me if I'm

704
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,660
wrong, if I have the timeline wrong, there

705
00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:43,180
was something called a mass open rescue at

706
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:44,180
several of these facilities.

707
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,060
And I'm going to show you some video.

708
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Large numbers of activists go to a facility.

709
00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:53,900
They're holding flowers.

710
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,000
They're singing songs.

711
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Some of them are chaining themselves to the

712
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,280
front.

713
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Some of them are going in and taking

714
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,560
out a select number of injured animals, animals

715
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,580
that appear in distress.

716
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,620
But look at the turnout by law enforcement.

717
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,560
Now, I'm personally just speaking as a California

718
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,240
taxpayer.

719
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,620
Just where I live, we had somebody shooting

720
00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:17,360
off a whole bunch of gunfire a couple

721
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,820
of nights ago, terrifying the whole community.

722
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,340
And I was scared to walk my dogs.

723
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,020
I would love to see this kind of

724
00:28:27,020 --> 00:28:30,040
police presence protecting me and protecting other taxpayers

725
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,820
from violent crime that is going on in

726
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:34,300
the community.

727
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,220
But look at this turnout of law enforcement.

728
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:42,280
I mean, that is a huge turnout.

729
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,980
So this is some of the backstory of

730
00:28:45,980 --> 00:28:47,420
what's happening in Sonoma County.

731
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,180
And I want to ask Samantha Faye, why

732
00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:51,200
Sonoma County?

733
00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:56,660
Is it because it's a very agricultural county

734
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:58,360
in California?

735
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,660
It might be called...

736
00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:02,860
Remember, California arguably is either one of or

737
00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:04,420
the most important state of the union.

738
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,460
It's about to become...

739
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:07,620
It's already the fifth largest economy in the

740
00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:07,880
nation.

741
00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:10,580
It's about to become the fourth largest economy

742
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:11,100
in the nation.

743
00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:14,640
So what happens here in California is super,

744
00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:18,920
super important to what's going to happen in

745
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,620
the rest of the United States and the

746
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:20,860
world.

747
00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:22,220
Absolutely.

748
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080
So just a little bit more backstory.

749
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,960
I was there at that mass open rescue

750
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,520
that you just broadcast.

751
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:32,820
And even more so than the police, the

752
00:29:32,820 --> 00:29:34,860
police on the ground on foot that you

753
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:38,360
can see, there was four different municipality helicopters.

754
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,900
So Sonoma County has a sheriff's helicopter.

755
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:43,900
Marin has a sheriff's helicopter.

756
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,060
And there was even helicopters that came in

757
00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:49,200
from Napa and from San Francisco County.

758
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,980
So even though it's extreme, the amount of

759
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:54,000
police presence that's on the ground, there were

760
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,720
even more that you can't even see in

761
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,360
that shot.

762
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,300
And then up on one side of the

763
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:00,680
street and down on the other side of

764
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,860
the street, they had paddy waggons that were

765
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:04,780
also full of police officers.

766
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:07,660
So it was really important to me as

767
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:09,640
a Sonoma County resident and an animal rights

768
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,680
activist that we do this in Sonoma because...

769
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,620
And I know that we've had a little

770
00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:15,620
bit of discussion just on air right now

771
00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:17,060
about small animal farmers.

772
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,320
But it was really important to me because

773
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,240
these large CAFOs are actually riding on the

774
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,820
reputation that small animal farmers feel as though

775
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:27,420
they've built for Sonoma County.

776
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,320
So people in Sonoma County, the consumers absolutely

777
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,780
believe that they're purchasing from these small animal

778
00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:36,840
producers when they are in fact not.

779
00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:39,100
They almost never are because these small animal

780
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,800
producers don't even have the ability to sell

781
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,460
their animal products in stores.

782
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,520
But the large CAFOs and all of these

783
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,260
things that people assume only exist in places

784
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:56,620
like Livingston, California and Modesto absolutely exist in

785
00:30:56,620 --> 00:30:57,200
Sonoma County.

786
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,180
And so we chose Sonoma County specifically because

787
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:01,120
I wanted it.

788
00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:04,440
But we also chose Sonoma County specifically because

789
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:12,040
of the surprise in which people receive this

790
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,580
information.

791
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,680
Everybody knows about the animal facilities that are

792
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,360
in Central California.

793
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:19,600
Everybody drives by Harris Ranch and all of

794
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,380
those things and they think that they're terrible.

795
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,980
And of course they want to do something

796
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:23,500
about it.

797
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,180
Let's leave the names of various ranches out.

798
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:29,460
We invite anybody mentioned on at any time.

799
00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:30,720
Sorry about that.

800
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,320
But the animal facilities that you drive through

801
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680
in Southern California, people want to stop those.

802
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040
People want to see that phased out.

803
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,160
But what they don't see is that when

804
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,040
you have like at the Mass Open Rescue

805
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,340
that you just broadcast, you can see that

806
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,480
all the grass is green around the facility.

807
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720
And so people legitimately think that when they

808
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,060
see green grass, that there's no way it

809
00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:57,280
can be a concentrated animal feeding operation.

810
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840
And so therefore, I think it's even more

811
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,000
sinister in Sonoma County that these facilities exist

812
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
on the same level as they do in

813
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Central California, but they're hiding behind basically just

814
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,920
the weather that we have here.

815
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,080
So fascinating.

816
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600
So again, we're going to go to a

817
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,540
caller, Tiffany in Los Angeles, your question or

818
00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:20,940
thought for our panel.

819
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,660
Hi, Jane, thank you for taking my call.

820
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:26,400
And I want to give a shout out

821
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,340
to Unchained TV.

822
00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:29,520
This is how I learned about DxD.

823
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,800
And I was actually able to go to

824
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,820
the right to rescue trial for Wayne.

825
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,460
And I got to see all three, Casey,

826
00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:43,280
Samantha, and Sarah in action getting the ballot,

827
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,980
getting signatures and working so hard to get

828
00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:46,760
this on the ballot.

829
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,800
So congratulations.

830
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,660
And I wanted to know what we can

831
00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:53,200
do if we don't live in the area

832
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,180
to support this to help get it passed.

833
00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,920
And also if you're planning any big rallies

834
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,540
or something we could put on the calendar

835
00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:02,340
to come up for.

836
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,440
So thank you.

837
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,080
Thank you all.

838
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Hi, Tiffany.

839
00:33:06,220 --> 00:33:07,920
So that's amazing to hear.

840
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,600
This is how you learned about what's going

841
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,180
on in Sonoma County and that you made

842
00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:12,900
the trip up for the trial.

843
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,320
And since you're not that far to somebody

844
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440
who is out of the county, but able

845
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560
to travel in a day's drive up there,

846
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,640
I definitely would say keep an eye out

847
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,260
for some of big events that are coming

848
00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:23,520
up.

849
00:33:23,620 --> 00:33:26,060
I believe the coalition's planning a launch party

850
00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:28,800
for Saturday, May 11th, and I'm sure that

851
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,980
there will be other events.

852
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,400
I think it would be great to do

853
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,380
a town hall or some kind of public

854
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:37,700
debate, have different coalition members speak, have the

855
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,220
Farm Bureau speak if they're willing to.

856
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,260
And yeah, just get the word out with

857
00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:43,960
more events.

858
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:46,400
But also there will be door knocking and

859
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,940
phone banking and phone banking, obviously, because it's

860
00:33:48,940 --> 00:33:51,420
done with phone can be done from outside

861
00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:51,920
of the county.

862
00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:54,800
So stay tuned for information about that, because

863
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,200
that's the way that you could help from

864
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,800
your own home.

865
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Tom says that we're more security at the

866
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,040
chicken factory than the Capitol on January 6th.

867
00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:04,600
I don't know if that's true, but we

868
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,280
get the point.

869
00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:10,199
What is the URL for people to go

870
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,820
to if they want to get involved in

871
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:13,800
this and learn exactly what's happening and when

872
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,520
the events are?

873
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,980
Great question.

874
00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:21,679
It's EndFactoryFarming.vote. EndFactoryFarming.vote is the website

875
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,860
for the Coalition to End Factory Farming, which

876
00:34:23,860 --> 00:34:25,800
is the ballot committee behind the whole campaign.

877
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,020
And you can actually see a lot of

878
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:30,639
useful information on there, including you can find

879
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,400
the link to the text of the initiative.

880
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,480
You can find the supporters who are listed

881
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719
on there and click through and check out

882
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,460
their websites.

883
00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:41,639
You can volunteer or just subscribe to the

884
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,159
email list to stay up to date.

885
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,460
So I just want to go over sort

886
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:49,620
of the mechanics of all this because ballot

887
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:50,820
measures are complicated.

888
00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:55,580
So Samantha, there's a lot of nuances on

889
00:34:55,580 --> 00:34:57,380
how this is going to unfold, what the

890
00:34:57,380 --> 00:35:00,660
actual wording will say, how do people vote,

891
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,940
yay or nay?

892
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,980
Tell us about it because, you know, I

893
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:09,200
always vote, but I vote at home and

894
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,280
it's complicated.

895
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,800
Then I have like a little packet that

896
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,520
someone sends me and I read, is this

897
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,520
yay or nay?

898
00:35:15,020 --> 00:35:16,340
Are you going to be in those packets?

899
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:18,340
And if so, who's sending them out?

900
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:19,820
What are the deets?

901
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,300
Yeah, absolutely.

902
00:35:21,740 --> 00:35:24,020
We fully plan on having a voter guide

903
00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:27,540
and being in other organisations' voter guides as

904
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:27,860
well.

905
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:31,020
Our coalition partners will be emailing their email

906
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:34,120
lists on getting people out, getting people to

907
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,380
vote.

908
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,860
We don't have the text that is actually

909
00:35:36,860 --> 00:35:38,480
going on the ballot right now.

910
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:45,440
There was a while ago like Prop 6,

911
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,560
I believe, that had their ballot measure information

912
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,540
worded really poorly within the ballot measure in

913
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:56,440
order to trick people to voting yes or

914
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,600
voting no on a specific issue.

915
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,460
So we're looking forward to having extremely clear

916
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,500
and transparent language in the ballot.

917
00:36:04,820 --> 00:36:07,920
And we're looking forward to having extremely clear

918
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640
and transparent language in our voter guides as

919
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:10,820
well.

920
00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:12,640
And thank you for always voting.

921
00:36:12,940 --> 00:36:14,440
I also always vote as well.

922
00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:15,160
It's very important.

923
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:16,260
All right.

924
00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:18,700
We've got another caller, Christina in Los Angeles.

925
00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:19,940
Your question or thought?

926
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Hi, everyone.

927
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,540
You're all so intelligent and articulate.

928
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,540
It's really a joy to listen and watch

929
00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:31,020
you all, first of all.

930
00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:34,320
So my, I guess, question or comment is,

931
00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:38,320
would it be contemplated to also add to

932
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,120
this movement?

933
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,620
The ballot measure, sure, would talk about factory

934
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:45,700
farms and so forth.

935
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:48,200
But to add to the whole bigger picture

936
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,900
of instead of factory farms, and I'm sure

937
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:54,120
people and companies are in fear of losing

938
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,700
profits and jobs, is to say, listen, we've

939
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:01,420
got companies coming in lined up.

940
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:03,920
They would love to open up produce and

941
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,240
fruit organic farms that would increase in profits

942
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,940
for everyone and create jobs.

943
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,780
And so sort of coupling those two ideas

944
00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:14,320
together.

945
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,560
It's not just a loss to their county

946
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,880
when folks are concerned about the economy, but

947
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,960
it's a plus when you can substitute it

948
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,360
with growing and thriving industries.

949
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:25,980
Wow.

950
00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:26,680
Excellent.

951
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,900
Who wants to take that?

952
00:37:29,020 --> 00:37:30,440
Samantha, you're nodding your head.

953
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,640
Isn't there something in your proposal that says

954
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,180
that there has to be sort of a

955
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:39,840
whole system for getting anybody who's lost their

956
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,680
job as a result of the closure of

957
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,360
these two dozen facilities to get other jobs?

958
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,520
Absolutely.

959
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,260
So there is a provision in the measure

960
00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:52,580
that states that there is already federal funding

961
00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:57,240
for farm workers to transition into other agricultural

962
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:57,860
jobs.

963
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,360
And I know that there is actually a

964
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160
dairy farm in Humboldt County where my husband's

965
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,600
family is from that was successfully transitioned into

966
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,560
a quinoa farm.

967
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,980
And so they were even able to keep

968
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:14,280
the same exact irrigation facilities that they had.

969
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,920
They were able to completely redesign the creamery

970
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,760
and the milking parlour basically into somewhere that

971
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:24,520
plant protein is being processed now.

972
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,080
And it is an extremely successful business venture.

973
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:31,140
They sell actually to Lundberg, one of my

974
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:31,840
favourite brands.

975
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,540
So when you're buying that brand, you can

976
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:37,320
also be supporting the transition of farm workers.

977
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:42,360
It's so amazing how many people are involved

978
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:42,700
in this.

979
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960
You know, I've collected signatures over the years.

980
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,340
I went out and collected signatures for Prop

981
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:49,640
2 many years ago that went into effect

982
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040
in 2015, I believe.

983
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,340
That was an anti-cruelty measure.

984
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,920
I also collected signatures for Prop 12.

985
00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:57,920
It's hard.

986
00:38:58,260 --> 00:38:59,820
I stood outside the farmer's market.

987
00:39:00,340 --> 00:39:02,640
People brush by you, you know, later.

988
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840
And so how many people do you have

989
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,820
involved in all of this?

990
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:11,460
And how do you coordinate all this?

991
00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:13,020
Who wants to take that?

992
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,840
I can start.

993
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,780
I probably won't give all of the information,

994
00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:21,040
but I don't know all the information.

995
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,760
But there were roughly 150 volunteers that all

996
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,640
worked hard to collect the signatures.

997
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:32,060
And so that's a huge part of it,

998
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,280
right?

999
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,480
You have to have the numbers.

1000
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:38,540
I guess, well, I think that's about as

1001
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:39,300
much as I want to say.

1002
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:40,400
All right.

1003
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:43,880
Well, Sarah, take it away.

1004
00:39:45,220 --> 00:39:45,620
Yeah.

1005
00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:48,020
So we have about 150 volunteers, like Sarah

1006
00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:48,380
said.

1007
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,720
We really appreciate them.

1008
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,040
And I hope that some of them are

1009
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,780
watching right now.

1010
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,500
Thank you so much for everything that you've

1011
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:56,400
done for the campaign.

1012
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,620
Moving forward, we really want people to get

1013
00:40:00,620 --> 00:40:01,520
their friends involved.

1014
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,380
So that's kind of how our organisation is

1015
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:06,800
sort of, and I know it's a charged

1016
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,120
term, trickle down, basically, that we have people

1017
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,160
who are really super passionate about the measure

1018
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,460
and about factory farming.

1019
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:16,240
And they'll go out and they'll get two

1020
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,980
or three friends to come with them to

1021
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:18,800
Signature Gather.

1022
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:20,700
And it's very low pressure.

1023
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:22,620
I know that a lot of people are

1024
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:23,640
really afraid of it.

1025
00:40:23,860 --> 00:40:26,660
I personally really dislike being brushed past, and

1026
00:40:26,660 --> 00:40:28,380
I wish that people would say, no, thank

1027
00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:28,640
you.

1028
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000
But it can be very emotionally draining work.

1029
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:36,000
And so we're so, so, so thankful to

1030
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,960
all of the volunteers that have helped us

1031
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,980
and to all of the volunteers who have

1032
00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:41,660
brought even more volunteers in.

1033
00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:43,680
I just have one funny anecdote.

1034
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,640
I remember many years ago, I was collecting

1035
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,760
outside the farmer's market and there was my

1036
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,180
yoga teacher brush past me and was like,

1037
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:52,660
later.

1038
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,620
And I was like, wait a second, you're

1039
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:58,000
not being the same person you are on

1040
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,820
that yoga mat.

1041
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,180
It was a hilarious moment.

1042
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Well, so Cassie, how does the after it's

1043
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,420
on the ballot effort differ from getting it

1044
00:41:10,420 --> 00:41:10,940
on the ballot?

1045
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,420
Those are two totally different things.

1046
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,760
Right.

1047
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,420
It's a lot more.

1048
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,420
I think the campaign needs to increase 10x

1049
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:23,640
because we need to knock on so many

1050
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,000
doors.

1051
00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:27,300
We didn't need every we didn't need a

1052
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,880
majority of voters in Sonoma County to sign

1053
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,760
the petition to get this on the ballot.

1054
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:34,260
We needed a small percentage of the number

1055
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:36,400
of people who had voted in a recent

1056
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,860
election.

1057
00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:38,940
And we exceeded that, which is great.

1058
00:41:39,060 --> 00:41:40,960
But in this case, what we'll need for

1059
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,680
this measure to pass is a majority is

1060
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,720
over 50 percent of people who vote on

1061
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:47,400
it to vote in support of it.

1062
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,160
And that means we need to get the

1063
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,320
word out to a much larger pool of

1064
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,700
people.

1065
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,700
And we also, at the same time, have

1066
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,700
more to explain, because it's pretty simple to

1067
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:01,120
let people know the very basic what this

1068
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,420
is and the timeline for it and that

1069
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:04,660
we need them to sign to get it

1070
00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:05,180
on the ballot.

1071
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:08,140
But now we're getting to convincing people to

1072
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:08,700
vote for it.

1073
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,000
And some people, they're already convinced.

1074
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:13,540
You definitely run into people who are like,

1075
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:14,800
thank you for doing this.

1076
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,880
And how do I get involved?

1077
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,260
Which is great, because they're already excited to

1078
00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:19,840
volunteer.

1079
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Like Sam said, people have jumped into the

1080
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,260
campaign just from signing and now they're volunteers.

1081
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:27,960
But there's also people who have a lot

1082
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,680
of questions, understandably, because if you don't even

1083
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,660
know what a CAFO is or what exactly

1084
00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:35,660
a factory farm is, then you probably don't

1085
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:38,540
know all these other facts about the ways

1086
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:42,220
that they're harming our community, the impacts that

1087
00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:44,320
they have on air quality and water quality

1088
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,720
and workers and just how hidden they are

1089
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:49,220
and what's happening to animals.

1090
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,560
So there's a lot of questions that people

1091
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,720
have, and it will take more time to

1092
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,660
have these conversations than the conversations getting people

1093
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:57,200
to sign.

1094
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,260
So, yeah, we need more help if people

1095
00:42:59,260 --> 00:43:00,660
want to come up and volunteer.

1096
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,880
If anybody watching is in Sonoma County, we

1097
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,840
would love to have you sign up at

1098
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,160
nfactoryfarming.vote and become a volunteer.

1099
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:08,940
All right, we got a caller.

1100
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,760
Annie in Sherman Oaks, your question or thought?

1101
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,660
Hi, yes, thank you, Jane, for taking my

1102
00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:15,960
call.

1103
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,540
Thank you all for all you do.

1104
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:21,380
I love you all, Kate, Cassie, Sarah, Wayne,

1105
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:23,920
every single one of you are incredible heroes,

1106
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,280
really.

1107
00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:29,120
I want to know, what is the specific

1108
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,020
lines that you could give, and is there

1109
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:34,660
a way we can make flyers, something that

1110
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:37,300
everyone can use, even those of us if

1111
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,260
we cannot make it to Sonoma County, to

1112
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:44,500
expand and, you know, your message so that

1113
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:46,440
it reaches out bigger population?

1114
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:47,640
Good point.

1115
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,820
Good question, Samantha.

1116
00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:52,860
What can people do who are not in

1117
00:43:52,860 --> 00:43:53,600
Sonoma County?

1118
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,760
Yeah, so thank you for your question.

1119
00:43:57,180 --> 00:43:59,840
There is a lot of going to be

1120
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,160
a lot of phone banking available.

1121
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,660
If you can't make it up to Sonoma

1122
00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:04,360
County at all, that's definitely one of the

1123
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,460
ways that you can participate remotely.

1124
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:11,580
I highly recommend going out and seeing if

1125
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:14,120
you do already support businesses that operate in

1126
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Sonoma County.

1127
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,900
I know that Sherman Oaks is a little

1128
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,700
far away, but I'm down in Southern California

1129
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,280
a lot, and I go to a lot

1130
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,280
of the vegan restaurants that are down there.

1131
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,720
And so if you've been to a vegan

1132
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:27,260
restaurant in Sonoma County, I recommend emailing them

1133
00:44:27,260 --> 00:44:30,080
very nicely and saying, thank you for providing

1134
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,800
plant-based options in Sonoma County, and I

1135
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,700
hope that you will look forward to voting

1136
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:37,940
yes on this measure.

1137
00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:41,080
Also, additionally, there is going to be a

1138
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,040
lot of materials that are coming out.

1139
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:45,940
Just within the next couple of weeks, we

1140
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:49,120
are printing out a bunch of leaflets.

1141
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:51,320
Most of our literature is going to be

1142
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,600
printed.

1143
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,420
And so if you have the ability to

1144
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:56,560
get a hold of some of that literature

1145
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,780
from us, you can find our email at

1146
00:45:00,780 --> 00:45:06,020
our website at nfactoryfarming.vote. Go ahead and

1147
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:07,400
get your hands on some of that literature

1148
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,760
and bring it to your favourite vegan restaurants

1149
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,480
and all of the restaurants that offer plant

1150
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,140
-based options, because those are the places where

1151
00:45:15,140 --> 00:45:17,480
our community really is being built.

1152
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,240
Community is built over food.

1153
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,600
So when we have that literature out, please

1154
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,060
go ahead, bring that around.

1155
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:24,980
And you know what?

1156
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:29,020
Your individual influence might bring this measure to

1157
00:45:29,020 --> 00:45:30,800
your town as well.

1158
00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:31,820
Can I jump in?

1159
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:32,840
Oh, we have to talk about that.

1160
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,460
Yes.

1161
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:35,340
Go ahead, Sarah.

1162
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,000
Oh, thanks.

1163
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:37,500
So I just wanted to add to that

1164
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:38,440
a couple of things, and I do want

1165
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,660
to rewind for a second also, but we

1166
00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:42,520
do have a couple of upcoming events for

1167
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,160
folks that are here in Sonoma County or

1168
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,620
that might be visiting Sonoma County for Earth

1169
00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:47,240
Day weekend.

1170
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,060
FACES, the organisation that I represent, one of

1171
00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:52,020
the coalition partners, is going to be having

1172
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:54,020
a booth at the Santa Rosa Earth Day

1173
00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:54,540
Festival.

1174
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,000
And one of the main things we're going

1175
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,320
to be doing there is to be campaigning

1176
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,140
for the ballot measure.

1177
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,000
So we will have lots of literature and

1178
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:01,500
materials.

1179
00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:03,200
We will have leaflets.

1180
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,100
I just saw that comment.

1181
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,640
So that's one of the things I really

1182
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,900
wanted to emphasise is the leaflets that are

1183
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,880
probably being printed as I speak, or one

1184
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,120
day this week anyway, very soon.

1185
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,620
So we will have those, and hopefully those

1186
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:19,660
will be made available for folks online who

1187
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:21,740
are not local, something that you, you know,

1188
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:23,660
are local, so that you can have that

1189
00:46:23,660 --> 00:46:25,780
and download it and pass those out to

1190
00:46:25,780 --> 00:46:28,340
your friends, family, other folks, or restaurants.

1191
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,240
But the one thing that I wanted to,

1192
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,620
oh, and then the second event is Healdsburg

1193
00:46:33,620 --> 00:46:35,240
Climate Action Festival.

1194
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,700
We will be, the campaign to end factory

1195
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,360
farming will actually be at the Healdsburg Climate

1196
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,160
Festival on Sunday.

1197
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Did I say the date?

1198
00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:46,880
So Earth Day Santa Rosa is this Saturday,

1199
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:48,380
April 20th.

1200
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:51,040
Then the Climate Fest in Healdsburg is Sunday,

1201
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:52,560
April 21st.

1202
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:54,140
So we'll be at both of those events.

1203
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Yeah.

1204
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:56,560
And let me just say, because this is

1205
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,260
going to be on, you know, as an

1206
00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:01,480
evergreen, there are those kinds of events coming

1207
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,280
up all the time.

1208
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,220
I have two key questions.

1209
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,720
One is...

1210
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,140
Jane, I have to jump off a little

1211
00:47:08,140 --> 00:47:10,040
bit early, like I mentioned, but just another

1212
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,560
thing is people, people can also donate to

1213
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,700
support the campaign at the website as well

1214
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:16,800
and factoryfarming.vote. Okay.

1215
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,160
Very good point.

1216
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:19,300
Thank you so much.

1217
00:47:19,660 --> 00:47:23,240
So let me ask you, Samantha, a question

1218
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:23,620
here.

1219
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120
What is the timeline for farmers to transition

1220
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,200
if this passes?

1221
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:30,060
That's a really great question.

1222
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,820
So our timeline for phase-out is a

1223
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:33,680
three-year period.

1224
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,780
And then after that three-year period, there

1225
00:47:36,780 --> 00:47:41,120
becomes some legal consequences like fines, et cetera,

1226
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:43,400
for those facilities that refuse to phase out

1227
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,940
or for the facilities that refuse to limit

1228
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:52,840
their size and limit their environmental footprint into

1229
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,180
a specific range.

1230
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:56,880
So our measure is only going to affect

1231
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,680
concentrated animal feeding operations.

1232
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:01,960
And so once you reduce your herd size

1233
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,940
or reduce your environmental footprint to a place

1234
00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:07,900
where the EPA no longer considers you a

1235
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:12,460
factory farm, that will become another situation for

1236
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:13,000
those farmers.

1237
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:15,780
But the transition phase is three years.

1238
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:19,900
And I know that there was a specific

1239
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:22,880
facility in Sonoma County that transitioned into a

1240
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,500
mushroom farm.

1241
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:25,280
And that was a comment that we got

1242
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:25,700
earlier.

1243
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:28,680
So I believe that that transition period only

1244
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,740
took about two years.

1245
00:48:29,860 --> 00:48:31,040
It wasn't very long at all.

1246
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,080
And I know that the transition period for

1247
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,540
the quinoa farm in Humboldt County was actually

1248
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:37,820
less than a year.

1249
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,000
So all of these resources are available to

1250
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,820
the people who own these types of facilities

1251
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,880
and the people who work at these types

1252
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,040
of facilities who no longer want to work

1253
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,800
at these types of facilities.

1254
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,840
So the phase-out...

1255
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,360
Samantha, I read that animals are counted as

1256
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,400
units in the industry.

1257
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,820
And, you know, I find that offensive just

1258
00:48:59,820 --> 00:49:00,400
personally.

1259
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:04,560
But how does that factor in?

1260
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,180
A chicken is not an entire unit?

1261
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,300
Or a cow is an entire unit?

1262
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,580
What the heck?

1263
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:13,840
Yeah, it's very confusing.

1264
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,620
And I know that the director of the

1265
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:19,780
Sonoma County Farm Bureau was the one who

1266
00:49:19,780 --> 00:49:22,400
perpetuated that misinformation.

1267
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:27,540
But that is a USDA and FDA definition

1268
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:28,860
is animal units.

1269
00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:31,820
But the EPA definition, which is the only

1270
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:33,740
definition that we're working on, and the only

1271
00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:38,200
definitions that matters for the ballot measure are

1272
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,360
individual animals.

1273
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,780
So the FDA and the USDA will judge

1274
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:45,820
animals in animal units, and the EPA will

1275
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:47,880
judge animals in individual animals.

1276
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:50,960
So again, that was just another really great

1277
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,400
example of pure disinformation and pure misunderstanding perpetuated

1278
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920
by individuals that are involved with the Sonoma

1279
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,720
County Farm Bureau.

1280
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:04,860
I just want to say, I cannot independently

1281
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,200
confirm all of this.

1282
00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:08,300
This is a lot of technical stuff.

1283
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:11,600
But we do invite the Farm Bureau on

1284
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,340
any time.

1285
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,540
Again, we would love to dialogue with you.

1286
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:16,520
You have an open invitation.

1287
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,660
I want to ask you about the big

1288
00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:19,480
picture here.

1289
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:24,560
If this passes, could this spread to other

1290
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,500
parts of the country?

1291
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,820
And Sarah, what are your thoughts on that?

1292
00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:30,420
Oh, absolutely.

1293
00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:32,640
I think that's one of the biggest reasons

1294
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,640
that this is becoming such a hot topic,

1295
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,180
and it's being talked about on news channels

1296
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:40,600
and on media outlets in other states, because

1297
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,220
the industry is so concerned that if we

1298
00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:47,700
do have success, or maybe even if we

1299
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:50,360
don't have success, if we just raise enough

1300
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,760
awareness that other people are going to take

1301
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,580
the baton and run with it, I think

1302
00:50:55,580 --> 00:50:56,660
they absolutely will.

1303
00:50:57,340 --> 00:50:59,080
And it's about time.

1304
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,940
So let me ask you, we only have

1305
00:51:03,940 --> 00:51:04,680
a couple of minutes.

1306
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,460
We'll get final thoughts from each of you.

1307
00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:08,340
But what about advertising?

1308
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:12,080
What about social media advertising and television advertising?

1309
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,500
I am very, very excited to get into

1310
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,920
the advertising period of our campaign.

1311
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,860
It is going to be an incredible creative

1312
00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:24,980
process to work with a team that we've

1313
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:26,220
already been working with.

1314
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:31,560
I'm very, very excited to get our message

1315
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,500
out to everyone and to clear up some

1316
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:37,580
of the, like I said earlier, the extreme

1317
00:51:37,580 --> 00:51:41,400
misunderstandings or the intentional misinformation that's being spread

1318
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,160
by our opponents.

1319
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:49,480
There will be many different ways of advertising.

1320
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,200
We're going to most likely be using television,

1321
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:55,080
print, billboards, all of these other things.

1322
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,460
We're definitely going to take advantage of every

1323
00:51:57,460 --> 00:51:59,720
single opportunity that we have available to us.

1324
00:52:00,140 --> 00:52:01,980
So I'll definitely make sure that if we

1325
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:06,140
do have a television commercial or something like

1326
00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:09,320
that, that we will send it to you,

1327
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,800
Jane, and you can send it to all

1328
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,860
of your followers as well.

1329
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:15,320
Well, let's put this in history with final

1330
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,700
thoughts.

1331
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Where is this?

1332
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,920
One minute each.

1333
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,020
So let's start with Sarah.

1334
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,380
In the history of movements, where does this

1335
00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:23,800
stand?

1336
00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:30,260
I personally perceive this as the new frontier

1337
00:52:30,740 --> 00:52:32,360
of social justice movements.

1338
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,840
We've seen throughout history that there have been

1339
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,140
many great movements that have served to ultimately

1340
00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:47,100
liberate and elevate various groups and gender in

1341
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,980
our society to establish rights and personhood.

1342
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,620
I believe that that's where we're at now,

1343
00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:57,660
that there's this idea of speciesism that is

1344
00:52:57,660 --> 00:52:59,260
starting to come to the surface.

1345
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,260
People are aware that animals are being treated

1346
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,080
very differently simply because they inhabit different body

1347
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,960
types than the human animal, and that they've

1348
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,580
been exploited and oppressed.

1349
00:53:12,580 --> 00:53:17,900
And I believe that we're really following that

1350
00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:20,640
same trajectory and using a lot of the

1351
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,500
same strategies for social change and social movement

1352
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:29,280
that will elevate this issue and lift the

1353
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,340
animals up and change it so that they

1354
00:53:31,340 --> 00:53:33,180
have rights and have personhood.

1355
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,400
All right.

1356
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:36,540
Samantha, your final thought.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I feel like this ballot measure and all

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of the things that are happening in Sonoma

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County is really the dawn of a new

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era of this movement.

1362
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We're looking at a time of truly unprecedented

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government and industry collusion.

1364
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We're looking at a time of deep unrest

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within the people of not only just Sonoma

1366
00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:00,060
County, but the people of the world.

1367
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:04,040
We're tired of being lied to by large

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industries that are being protected by our government.

1369
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We're tired of understanding that, especially in Sonoma

1370
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:12,460
County, we do not have the ability to

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influence our elected officials like the district attorney

1372
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and the judge that actually presided over Wayne's

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trial is an elected official in Sonoma County.

1374
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,000
So we no longer have the ability to

1375
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,820
influence the judiciary system to take advantage of

1376
00:54:27,820 --> 00:54:29,720
the laws that already exist in California.

1377
00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:32,360
So this is going to be the absolute

1378
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,760
dawn of a movement where we're working, like

1379
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,440
Sarah said, with people who are perpetuating this

1380
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,660
idea that speciesism is wrong and perpetuating this

1381
00:54:40,660 --> 00:54:42,760
idea that we have the right and the

1382
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,500
responsibility to take advantage of our judiciary system

1383
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,640
to actually make it work for the people.

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We are out of time.

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Incredible guests, incredible panel.

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I'm going to leave you this final thought.

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See you next time here on.