You Won't Believe What These 2 Vegan Powerhouses Have Done!

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Wouldn't you like to be fierce and vegan?

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I certainly would, and there she is, nobody

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more fierce and vegan than this extraordinary actress,

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activist, and now entrepreneur.

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All I can say is, I'll have what

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she's having, right?

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I would like to be this ripped, and

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I think everybody would like to be ripped,

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really, when you get down to it.

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And what's so amazing is that now Nina

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Bergman, the actress, activist, biting her high heels

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and launching a brand new company, and her

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bestie, Rebecca Mink, has three different companies.

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So there's a lot going on right now.

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I want to start with Nina Bergman.

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Tell us what you're doing and why.

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Um, well, you know, I'm Nina Bergman, and

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I'm a vegan, and been most of my

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life, and I just wanted to do more.

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And by doing undercover work and showing what

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happened behind slaughterhouses, I didn't really get anywhere.

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I didn't get where I wanted to be.

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So I started thinking of other ways.

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And then people kept asking me, how do

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you stay so fit?

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How do you, you know, you look so

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healthy, your muscles, your skin, your energy, what

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do you do?

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So for a decade, I wrote it all

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down.

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And I started logging everything.

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And then I created a 12-step program

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for anyone.

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If you're vegan, you can become a healthy

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vegan.

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If you are living in the Midwest, and

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you don't even know what a vegan is,

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it's for you.

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It's a broad program for 12 weeks.

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And it's all about taking it from where

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you are and improving, you know, even if

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it's just Meatless Monday, and that's all you

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get out of my program, in my opinion,

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you're a winner.

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There's no judgment in my program.

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It's not overwhelming.

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It's very simple.

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So that's what it is.

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And I have an app that I created

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too, a GPT app that I fetched, so

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you can ask me questions.

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It's like having me in your back pocket,

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so you can ask me questions throughout the

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process.

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For recipes, workout programs, what's healthy, how to

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get more protein, anything that you want.

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If you're depressed, and you need to, you

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know, up your mood or whatever it is,

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you can ask the GPT chat called Nina,

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so you can have me in my back

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pocket.

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So yeah, I created it to give.

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I just want to help people.

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This is your website.

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It is absolutely fantastic.

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And what I love about it is that

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there's a program.

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So many people want to get in shape.

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I mean, look, I struggle with it all

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the time.

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I wear ankle, wrist, and a heavy jacket.

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I walk a mile and a half with

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my dogs every day, but you know, it's

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a struggle.

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It's a work in progress.

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It would be great to have the kind

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of support and guidance that you offer.

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So tell us about this masterclass and how

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it plays out for, what is this, 50,

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basically 60 bucks a month for a whole

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new body, mind, and spirit.

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That's a good deal.

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Yes, I mean, I made it so it's

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affordable for everyone, or you can purchase the

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whole program for $149, and then you have

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it for life.

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And it's just because I was not a

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healthy vegan.

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I thought I was healthy, but I retained

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water in my body.

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My hormones were all over the place.

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You know, I did a Ted talk about

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it, my story, actually.

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I just did a Ted talk called Vegan

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Machine that you can check out, and it's

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like the whole story about how I came

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about it.

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But I wasn't doing well, and I realized

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that I had candida in my body.

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I had heavy metals in my body.

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I had all this stuff.

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So even though I was vegan, I wasn't

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healthy, and I was sluggish and tired, depressed.

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And I talk about that in my program.

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I have a whole chapter dedicated to the

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stomach, because that's our second brain.

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Our gut is our second brain.

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So it's all about cleaning out your body,

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cleaning out your gut, and what to clean

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out your fridge, what to have in your

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fridge.

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And it's all designed for people who have

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no money, and someone like me who can't

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cook.

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I can prepare food, but I can't cook,

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and I have no time to work out.

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So what do you do if you have

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no time and no money?

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So that's what the program is for.

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So there's no excuse.

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Well, let me say this, and I want

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to come back to you and get to

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Rebecca.

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But you are an actress.

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For those who've been living under a rock,

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you've been in some of these top films,

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Doom, Annihilation, Hell Hath No Fury, Chief of

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Station, The Car, Road to Revenge, Assassin X,

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Catacombs.

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And that obviously helped you when it was

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time to do a TEDx talk because you're

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used to public speaking.

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So let's listen to a little bit of

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your TEDx talk, and then we're going to

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come back to you and really hone in

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on why you did this TEDx talk, and

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why you've decided with this incredible acting career

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to also take on this whole new role

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as essentially a vegan health and fitness guru.

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All right.

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I'm Nina Bergman, and I'm vegan, and I'm

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here to debunk the myth that vegans are

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weak and to tell you that anyone who

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is listening right now can be vegan if

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they choose to.

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But before we get into this, can we

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just leave all preconceived notions at the door

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just for the duration of my speech?

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I promise I will refund all of your

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opinions and your judgments for free.

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All right.

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What if I told you that vegans stand

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for vital, enlightened, global advocates, nonviolent soldiers?

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Now, while that sinks in, let me tell

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you a little bit about myself.

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I was a ballerina at age four, and

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I trained harder than anyone else.

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And my dad told me...

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All right.

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What did your dad tell you?

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That meat equals power.

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My Russian dad growing up in Denmark.

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Yeah, because that's what he was taught.

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So that's what I believed in as a

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little girl.

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We would break the chicken bones and suck

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out the marrow to become strong.

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I didn't know that being strong meant eating

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what the strongest animals on the planet eat,

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which is greens, veggies.

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So I have to ask you, when did

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you split from your dad's philosophy and come

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into your own?

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And how did you discover that, like a

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lot of dads, he was wrong?

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Well, I talk about it to him in

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my TED Talk.

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He took me fishing and he asked me...

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We caught a fish and he asked me

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to kill the fish, to beat it to

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death.

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That's how we killed them.

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And it was completely unnatural to me.

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And all I could do was pick it

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up and put it back in the water.

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It's not natural to want to kill.

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I was like, oh, wow, I don't want

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to kill animals.

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I want to save them.

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Well, let me say the proof is in

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the pudding.

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And darling, you look marvelous.

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That's all I can say.

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And like I said, I want what she's

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having.

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Now, let's move on to the extraordinary Rebecca

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Mink.

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Again, this was one of the toughest podcasts

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because I'm like, they're doing so much.

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What do I talk about now?

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So, Rebecca, you are a famed entrepreneur who

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really broke new ground when you debuted your

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vegan shoes.

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And let's revisit history to see what you're

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doing now to take those vegan shoes and

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combine it with another extraordinary new company.

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I'm Rebecca Mink and I am the founder

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and designer of Mink Shoes.

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Every pair of Mink Shoes has a personality

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of its own.

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And since 2004, they have adorned the feet

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of the most famous women in the world.

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So what does it mean to have a

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vegan shoe?

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It doesn't mean that they're just not made

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of leather.

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It means that every step in the process

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is completely cruelty free and it's completely free

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of any animal product.

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And it's all made from rubber plant materials.

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Non-animal glues actually outlast animal glues.

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They crack less, they work better with water.

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And it turns out we've created something very

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special.

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All Mink Shoes are named after animals.

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The reason that I name every shoe after

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an animal is because of my love for

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them.

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Rebecca fills a void for something that is

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very unique, very stylish, very pretty and very

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well made.

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One picks up the shoe doesn't even know

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that it's not leather.

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It's so spectacular.

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Rebecca Mink succeeded in creating the first collection

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of Mink Shoes, which premiered in 2004.

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A lot of people didn't understand the concept

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of vegan shoes or cruelty free shoes.

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Why would it matter if a shoe was

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made out of leather or not?

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But now the idea of a cruelty free

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shoe, a gorgeous shoe that is not made

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of animal byproducts is pretty mainstream and Rebecca

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was at the forefront of that.

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You were a pioneer, Rebecca.

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I remember meeting you when you first launched

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Mink Shoes and it was a sensation.

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Tell us, how's Mink Shoes doing?

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Incredible.

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It's been such a journey.

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I mean, I started my journey at four

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years old when I was at a birthday

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party and a little boy told me hot

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dogs were made from dogs.

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And then I just wanted to figure out

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what everything was that I was eating.

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And then I became a stylist to celebrities

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and then I started this Mink Shoes, which

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is the first luxury vegan shoes created 26

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years ago.

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A really long time ago when people did

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not know what I was doing.

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So now I've developed a new invention, which

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is Plyd, the plant leather company.

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And we are creating plant leather that's made

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from upcycled fruit and vegetable waste.

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It's regenerative, it's circular, and it's actually using

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the actual looking at the polymers in each

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fruit and vegetable way so we can use

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all plants and we can create a leather

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that is scalable in existing plastic leather factories.

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So we are excited to be launching Plyd,

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the plant leather company in 2026 with my

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co-founder Ahmed Rahim and we are so

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thrilled to be moving into a direction of

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doing something so big.

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People don't realize how large the leather industry

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is.

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And then another thing people don't realize is

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how difficult it is to make something that

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is actually able to go through industrial production.

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So we are finishing our R&D, closing

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up some funding and getting some incredible investors

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on board if anyone's interested.

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And we are excited to move to the

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next level and revolutionize the leather industry, which

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is, you know, shoes have been incredible mission

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for me to really shift the paradigm of

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the way people think.

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So they don't think that gorgeous shoes have

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to be leather, but now Plyd, the plant

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leather company, is really moving the needle because

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we also will be putting this within automotive,

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we'll be putting this within all different fashion

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industries, leather goods, bags, belts, wallets, and also

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furniture, and the list goes on, sport.

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So we're excited to really regenerate what's happening

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in that leather industry.

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So lots, lots going on there in the

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tanneries and the carbon footprint of the emissions

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from the cows, and so much more that's

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unnecessary.

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I've always wondered why people haven't evolved beyond

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equating leather with luxury.

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It seems so 19th century to me.

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Now we know that fur is dead in

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the sense of being a fashion accessory.

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All the big labels have abandoned fur.

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Rodeo Drive, which used to be just a

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giant fur bazaar, has now pretty much almost

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eliminated fur with maybe one or two exceptions.

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But the big shift would be if we

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completely abandoned leather for what's called vegan leather.

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It is now popping up in cars and

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it is being equated with sort of a

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modern chic ethic.

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Can you tell us a little bit about

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that evolution, how you're interacting with designers and

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manufacturers and brands to convince them that the

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really hip, cool, new luxury is compassionate vegan

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leather?

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First, I have to say that the replacement

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for leather has been plastic.

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So that has been the biggest issue.

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And that was an issue for me, making

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a luxury shoe.

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I wanted the whole shoe to be sustainable.

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So really using plastic and all that's come

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out has a lot of plastic in it.

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So it might be not strong enough if

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it's not plastic without lining it with plastic

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to make shoes because there's a heavy amount

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of pressure and torque and heat that has

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to be able to sustain.

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So number one is that they've been plastic.

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So that's where Plaid is changing the game,

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making something that feels natural, feels like leather,

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doesn't feel like plastic, something scalable, something that

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uses all different plants.

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So never going to run out of our

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inputs for the production of it.

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So it's exciting to think about actually creating

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something that's adoptable by these brands.

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And I can tell you as a luxury

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brand creating mink shoes, I would look at

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what was out there and I shredded my

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competition.

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So there really hasn't been anything that a

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high-end brand would really design a collection

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around.

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And for example, I have an idea to

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create a collection that's a yellow crocodile with

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lemons from Sicily, for example, making a story,

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making something very unique, just like what they've

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been doing with leather for so many years.

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They really want something more than just another

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plastic leather.

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Wow, this is extraordinary.

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It's beautiful.

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So many colors.

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And I think the idea that fruit can

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become leather is such a breakthrough concept.

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Are there any particular fruits?

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I mean, I would think that for example,

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like a cantaloupe would be a little tougher

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than a strawberry, but what do I know?

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Well, it's interesting because we find a, when

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we look at the polymers, all of the

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different fruits have a skin.

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So it's almost like as if a human

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skin or a cow skin.

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So it protects, it's durable.

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And some of them are actually extremely waterproof.

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Some are more durable and some, even if

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they don't have the durability coming through, they

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add thickness or, so we've tested a multitude

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of different things.

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We've even tested bay leaves and roses and

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left the smell in.

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But of course, when we do cabbage, we

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take the smell out.

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So it's fun to think about leaving in

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lavender or doing some fun things like that

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in the future, because the plants coming through

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is a whole nother layer of what we're

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doing that we're just starting to explore.

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So it's, it's an exciting time.

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And you know, the bottom line is we

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do not need animals to create products that

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are leather-like.

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We just needed somebody to work as hard

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as I am to get through the R

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&D and get to the other side of

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this, where we're creating something very new and

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it's never been done before.

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And if you're just joining us, we are

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talking to two incredible powerhouse women, actress, activist,

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Nina Bergman, with her new Fierce and Vegan

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cutting-edge GPT-enabled fitness program, and Rebecca

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Mink of Mink Shoes, now launching into vegan

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leathers using fruit.

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Nina, you are in the Hollywood crowd because

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you're an actress, you go to these events,

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the red carpet events.

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Where is Hollywood when it comes to switching

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to compassionate fashion?

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I personally have attended protests.

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There have been years where some so-called

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star wears fur at a big event that's

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televised, and we've protested that.

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But it really seems that fur is an

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embarrassment to be caught in at this point,

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culturally.

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Where are we with leather?

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We're not there yet with leather.

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The connection, I feel like, haven't been made.

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I too was with the early fur campaigns,

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Lash Ends for Animals, and every Friday when

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they were doing them.

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But leather is, we are not there yet.

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And I think my philosophy on it is,

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someone like me that wants to wear something

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cool, hip, edgy, funky, whatever, high-end, at

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these kind of events, it's hard to find.

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Where now, it is so much easier, and

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that's why I'm so excited for Rebecca to

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start creating again, because she was one of

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the first vegan designers that I worked for

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as a model, fully vegan designers that I

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worked for.

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That's how we met, I was a model

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for her shoes.

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And I was just blown away by her

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style and the cool, edgy stuff that she

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was doing.

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And the quality, a lot of vegan quality

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doesn't last very long.

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You buy it and then it falls apart.

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But with someone like Rebecca, I just wanted

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to show you something.

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I have something right here, one of Rebecca's

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things that I got many years ago that

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I still have.

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There's Rebecca's shoes.

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I would wear those to the red carpet,

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I've worn them many times.

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But I wanted to show you, many, many

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years ago, I got this.

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This is a vegan wallet.

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Look, make.

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I have had this thing for God knows

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how long.

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It's cool, it's classy, it's edgy, it's high

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-end.

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It's a little worn because I've had it

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for, I don't even want to know how

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long I've had it for.

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I think that's the biggest problem is that

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there hasn't been cool vegan options.

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But it's slowly happening.

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They're saying that veganism is the fastest growing

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movement, and it's spreading.

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And especially in Hollywood, working, they always have

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options.

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And it's not that big of a deal

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anymore when I say, hey, I don't want

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to wear leather coat.

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Hey, I definitely can't wear fur.

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So it's changing rapidly in Hollywood, from my

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experience.

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And here is the Meek Shoe homepage.

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Look at these incredible collections.

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Oh my gosh.

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I more lean away from high heels to

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maybe the boots on the left or the

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loafers in the middle.

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They look fabulous.

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But if you're into high heels, boy, do

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they have them.

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And these are worn by some of the

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most famous women in Hollywood.

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I mean, this is gourmet.

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And now Rebecca is also launching Ply'd.

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Is that how you pronounce it?

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Ply'd, the plant leather company.

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Ply'd, Ply'd, the vegan leather, the plant leather.

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So are your shoes going to have Ply'd

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leather in them?

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Yeah, Ply'd is going to be the leather

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of choice for Mink, of course.

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But we are also talking to high-end

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brands.

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And we're in discussions with Honda.

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We're talking with brands such as Dolce Gabbana,

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Versace, Bottega Veneta.

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So I would just like to add on

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to your question to Nina that I know

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that they say a certain amount of brands

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are looking for vegan alternatives, and I would

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say all of them are.

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So I part-own a shoe factory in

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Italy.

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And in this shoe factory, we make Christian

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Louboutin, Chanel, Jimmy Choo, Dolce Gabbana, and they've

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always been looking for an alternative.

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And now I can offer them this.

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So it's an exciting new world.

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So gorgeous.

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I absolutely love it.

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So incredible to have her a part of

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different photos we've done with the shoes because

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she doesn't just bring the beauty and the

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energy and the passion, but she's a true

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vegan.

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And it's so exciting to have someone that

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really is who they say they are.

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I first met Nina at the National Animal

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Rights Day event where she spoke and spoke

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so beautifully.

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And you know what I said to myself?

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I said, I wish more Hollywood stars would

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have the guts to take a stand on

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this issue.

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Somebody is commenting right now, we need to

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make Hollywood less afraid of the beef lobby.

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Yes, there are so many people who really,

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their voice is very powerful, but they're not

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using it to speak up, for example, for

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animals.

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What would you say about that, Nina?

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Well, I think, number one, I believe we

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have to pay rent while we're here on

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earth, right?

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We all have to do something.

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And I feel like when someone is suffering,

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and you're witnessing someone in pain, being tortured,

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and you know, it's going on.

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I mean, it's, it's a sin not to

542
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speak up.

543
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You know, and for someone who has, I

544
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,400
mean, I have been to the dairy farms,

545
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,240
I have been to the slaughterhouses, I have

546
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,880
watched what happens behind closed doors.

547
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,300
So every night, you know, I have a

548
00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,800
hard time sleeping because of the screams and

549
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,320
the smells.

550
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,360
And, you know, I don't have a choice.

551
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,020
But I think even for other people, even

552
00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:20,340
just I keep saying just start with meatless

553
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:23,240
Monday, just start slow, just baby steps, just

554
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,200
start if you have an option of vegan

555
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,260
options, you know, buying leather and buying non

556
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:30,880
leather, just, you know, go that extra mile,

557
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,180
you know, just take that little extra step

558
00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:36,060
to try to make a difference.

559
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,180
I mean, it's not that hard.

560
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,960
I think food and fashion and a vegan

561
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,480
lifestyle is just habit.

562
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,680
Like for me, it's easy because I'm so

563
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,380
used to it.

564
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,400
And I have put all of that in

565
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760
my program to to try to just make

566
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,040
it as easy as possible for people because

567
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,320
it's not that hard.

568
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:55,200
Once you build in those habits, it's just

569
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,580
we're not used to it.

570
00:23:57,020 --> 00:23:59,280
And, and I, you know, and the stigma,

571
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,740
I have a whole thing about stigma, the

572
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:04,180
last chapter in my program about how dealing

573
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:07,300
with being the crazy one, the weird one,

574
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:10,260
the, you know, the one where when I

575
00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:11,960
sit quietly in the corner and eat my

576
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,520
veg veggies, and I just get reprimanded for

577
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,200
being better than anyone else.

578
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:19,620
And all I'm doing is just sitting there

579
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:23,320
and my greens, you know, we, people get

580
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760
triggered by us because we speak the truth,

581
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,040
and we holding up a mirror.

582
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,900
So I feel that there is a community

583
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,960
and it's important that we stick to our

584
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,360
community, just to have one friend that is

585
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,060
also vegan or someone who is on the

586
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:37,760
same path.

587
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,880
So we don't get led astray because we

588
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,580
have to, I think it's our duty.

589
00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:44,720
I think we don't have a choice.

590
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,920
We have to.

591
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,320
I couldn't agree with you more.

592
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,700
And, you know, conformity is never really admirable.

593
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,740
In retrospect, it only made me feel safe

594
00:24:57,740 --> 00:24:58,880
while you're doing it.

595
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:00,840
But then when you look back, you go,

596
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:04,480
history will show, look at the things that

597
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,360
used to be normal.

598
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,640
And we look back, whether it's about race,

599
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:12,180
about gender, about any number of things, we

600
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,120
look back in horror, horror.

601
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,900
But at the time, the people who were

602
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:19,640
horrified at that time were often castigated.

603
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:23,000
So I think it's a badge of honor

604
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,760
personally.

605
00:25:24,140 --> 00:25:26,460
And I think you're absolutely right.

606
00:25:26,660 --> 00:25:27,660
Vegan isn't a diet.

607
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,600
It's a lifestyle.

608
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,960
It's a philosophy.

609
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:33,760
And that's what we really try to show

610
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,260
people on Unchained TV.

611
00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:36,840
Now, guess what?

612
00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:39,900
If you're into luxury, if you're into fashion

613
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:43,460
and compassion, there is an incredible tour that

614
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:45,600
you can take with the one and only

615
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,400
Rebecca Mink.

616
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,380
Tell us all about it.

617
00:25:48,460 --> 00:25:50,140
And while you do, I'm going to put

618
00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:50,880
up the link.

619
00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:54,060
If people are interested in this tour, and

620
00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:56,940
it is so fabulous, that's where you go.

621
00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:59,200
Well, it's exciting.

622
00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:03,200
I've been going to Italy for 26 years.

623
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600
And I've been vegan since I was four.

624
00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:08,140
So you can imagine, all of those years,

625
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,440
I've been vegan, roaming around Italy, trying to

626
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,200
figure out what the best things to do

627
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,480
and see and eat are.

628
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,480
So I have taken two different tours with

629
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,100
incredible women to Italy before, and I'm doing

630
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:22,560
it again.

631
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120
I've got two this year coming up.

632
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,980
And the link is in Instagram as well,

633
00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:29,700
if you need it.

634
00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:33,060
But it's so exciting because I take you

635
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:36,860
to the restaurants that are not necessarily all

636
00:26:36,860 --> 00:26:40,340
vegan, ones that have been cooking vegan local

637
00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:42,940
dishes for me for 20 years.

638
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,500
So some unique and very special places, some

639
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,380
hidden gems.

640
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,540
I also have a cooking class where you're

641
00:26:50,540 --> 00:26:52,180
able to make vegan pasta.

642
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600
And then we have chefs cook it for

643
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:54,920
us.

644
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:57,100
And we get to sit in Tuscan hills

645
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,300
and eat it.

646
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,940
And I also take everyone to my shoe

647
00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:06,000
factory, which is incredible to see shoes made

648
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,720
from start to finish.

649
00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:10,180
And we'll teach you how to make shoes

650
00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:12,360
and show you a lot more about the

651
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:12,620
leather.

652
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,380
But shoes are made in about 30 different

653
00:27:15,380 --> 00:27:17,440
factories, and they're put together in one.

654
00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:19,620
And I part own a mounting factory where

655
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,520
the magic happens, where the whole shoe comes

656
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,960
together.

657
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,960
And I've taken some women in there that

658
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,360
started crying when they see all these designer

659
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,360
shoes being made.

660
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,680
But I make all of my brands and

661
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,600
white labels vegan.

662
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,660
And I hope to turn the entire factory

663
00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:36,000
vegan soon with plied plant leather.

664
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,600
But it's exciting to see where I can

665
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800
take you that you wouldn't go on a

666
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,660
normal tour on your own.

667
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,980
And you're in a safe zone with an

668
00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:48,180
incredible driver and tour guide that's been doing

669
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:50,540
for over 30 years by our side.

670
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,840
So it's an experience of a lifetime.

671
00:27:53,140 --> 00:27:54,980
And every single woman that's gone on it,

672
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,500
they've become friends for life.

673
00:27:57,140 --> 00:27:59,700
And it really is a life changing.

674
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
So vegan food and the incredible women in

675
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Italy.

676
00:28:03,020 --> 00:28:05,580
I mean, who could ask for more?

677
00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:07,300
How many people per tour?

678
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:09,880
Well, I keep it really, really small.

679
00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:12,320
I would go to the maximum of 16.

680
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,800
But we're looking at 12.

681
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,360
And even the first tour to even do

682
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,960
a very small curated tour of even lower

683
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,060
number than that.

684
00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:24,360
So it's just about really showing something in

685
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,360
a way that we need.

686
00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,680
It's curated by design to be small so

687
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,980
that we can take you to these unique

688
00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:35,440
locations and places that no one can access.

689
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:37,980
It sounds absolutely fabulous.

690
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:39,500
I want to thank both of you.

691
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,020
You are my heroes.

692
00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:45,900
My gosh, just a recap and review.

693
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920
So many things happening.

694
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:52,000
We've got obviously mink shoes.

695
00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:57,860
We've got the vegan leather, plied, plied leather.

696
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,520
And there she is with what are the,

697
00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:01,320
what is all that behind you?

698
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,280
I have to ask you.

699
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:06,560
That's, you know, I've, you know, I know

700
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,260
Jane Goodall has a saying that girls just

701
00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:10,640
want to do science.

702
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,960
And I'm one of those.

703
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,680
I dove in to the university.

704
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,040
I'm a product based CEO.

705
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,440
So I love to get my hands on

706
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,880
the product and really be a part of

707
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,100
that.

708
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,440
I'm a lab rat.

709
00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:26,320
Well, hopefully there'll be no actual lab rats

710
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,560
very soon.

711
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,780
And then we have the Fierce and Vegan

712
00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:36,740
launch that we're so excited to be a

713
00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:40,700
part of today by letting everybody know, and

714
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:45,080
this is really transformational, but it's modern using

715
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,580
chat GPT.

716
00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:54,640
This founder, Nina Bergman, actress, activist, athlete, can

717
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
guide you if you want to change.

718
00:29:57,860 --> 00:29:59,440
You don't have to bite a high heel

719
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
shoe, but you can have a lot of

720
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,220
fun with Fierce and Vegan.

721
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,740
I want to thank both of you.

722
00:30:05,940 --> 00:30:07,840
You are extraordinary.

723
00:30:08,380 --> 00:30:14,000
Everybody check out these companies, check out the

724
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,380
tour.

725
00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:17,040
This is so much fun.

726
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960
And we're going to have them back as

727
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,540
they take over the world.

728
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:23,320
Thank you.

729
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,820
See you next time on Truth Files on

730
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:26,660
Unchained TV.

731
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,180
So it's a vegan Netflix.

732
00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:30,680
Okay.

733
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,340
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

734
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,620
I love Unchained TV.

735
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,440
Unchained.

736
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Unchained TV.

737
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Your life will change.

738
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:37,740
It's just that easy.

739
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,580
Unchained TV has all sorts of content for

740
00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:41,040
everybody.

741
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:43,480
Unchained TV changed my life.

742
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,620
Unchained TV is crushing it.

743
00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:48,280
I love Unchained TV.

744
00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:50,300
Unchained TV is my go-to.

745
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400
Unchained TV, who knew?

746
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,300
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